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Post #52 by AD » Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:35 pm

I just read that every ounce of scotch is about 75 calories.

Fucks sake.

I have to cut down on a lot of food to keep my scotch intake unscathed.
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Post #53 by Jedrik » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:30 pm

Banana wrote:I just read that every ounce of scotch is about 75 calories.

Fucks sake.

I have to cut down on a lot of food to keep my scotch intake unscathed.


I find I get about two doubles deep and that's around the end of my scotch night, though that also usually happens to be on weekends when it's competing with a quality brew or wine. God I get giddy just typing about it!
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Post #54 by AD » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:33 pm

Yeah.. its just that I'm trying to be more reasonable in my food intake and yesterday I took this vow of no longer eating desserts after supper. Instead, I took a couple drams of scotch.

It appears I may have to go back to the drawing board.
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Post #55 by PPJ » Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:38 am

I'm not really a Scotch guy, but I was given a Glenlivet 12 for my 40th that's never been opened. I may never open it.

Does that mean its equivalent to an 18 when I hit 46? Or once bottled as a 12, it no longer ages?
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Post #56 by clawfirst » Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:07 am

No it's not bottle conditioned. It comes out of the oak barrel and that's its age.
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Post #57 by Jedrik » Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:24 am

Unfortunately the aging process begins and ends in the barrel with scotch, unlike wine.

Edit: clawfirst in for the win while I was making coffee.

Double edit: said 'bottle' when I meant 'barrel'. Fuck you, hangover.
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Post #58 by Not » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:36 pm

Purchased a Macallan 12 in NJ this weekend for 47$ - SAQ 90$
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Post #59 by IcE ColD » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:10 pm

Bought a Macallan Gold last week.

This thing is fucking good.
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Post #60 by Artie » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:06 pm

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Post #61 by AD » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:32 pm

IcE ColD wrote:Bought a Macallan Gold last week.

This thing is fucking good.


What is it? I'm very curious.

I'm not a fan of how distilleries are doing away with age marks and going for "brands". But I can't fight it so I may as well start enjoying it.
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Post #62 by Jedrik » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:41 pm

I was about to ask that -- saw some Macallan the other day under this new naming format thing and was curious what the F is what.
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Post #63 by Craig » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:59 pm

Jedrik wrote:I was about to ask that -- saw some Macallan the other day under this new naming format thing and was curious what the F is what.


They say it's more appropriate to evaluate their whiskeys based on colour, rather than age.

The truth is increased demand from places like China has produced a demand that they can't possibly satisfy and keep up a minimum age on the bottle of 8+ years. So they switch to other grading schemes that let them mix in some younger Scotch with some older Scotch to meet the demand. Gold is very likely the old Macallan 8 blended with some Macallan 3. I'm not particularly opposed to this, so long as they keep it to the entry level stuff. It seems like a reasonable way to bridge the supply gap until they can get more production online and aged up.
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Post #64 by IcE ColD » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:35 pm

The only thing I can say 'bout that one is that it was as pricey as a Glenlivet 15, and that I like the taste of it.

Since it's my first Macallan, I unfortunately definitely cannot compare.
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Post #65 by AD » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:47 pm

IcE ColD wrote:The only thing I can say 'bout that one is that it was as pricey as a Glenlivet 15, and that I like the taste of it.

Since it's my first Macallan, I unfortunately definitely cannot compare.


Fair enough.

Macallan is usually strong on the vanilla and sweetness in their young stuff and that mellows out into a nice balance in the 18 and 25.


If you want to have some fun.. have a Macallan 12 or the Gold. And then down an Ardberg 10 afterwards.
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Post #66 by IcE ColD » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:08 pm

I had the Gold, this is the one I've just talked about.

On another note, one of my sisters gave me a Glenfarclas 15 at Christmas... got quite the punch.
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Post #67 by Artie » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:29 pm

IcE ColD wrote:I had the Gold, this is the one I've just talked about.

On another note, one of my sisters gave me a Glenfarclas 15 at Christmas... got quite the punch.


a buddy of mine has been talking about the Glenfarclas...really recommended it.

now that it has the IcE stamp of approval, I may try it
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Post #68 by IcE ColD » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:43 am

Artie wrote:a buddy of mine has been talking about the Glenfarclas...really recommended it.

now that it has the IcE stamp of approval, I may try it


I unfortunately think that a Banane stamp of approval might be better in that case.

Fuck, now I gotta take a shower, I feel quite filthy.

Edit: Oh, oh! An hf4 stamp of approval would be even better!
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Post #69 by habfan4 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:03 pm

IcE ColD wrote:I unfortunately think that a Banane stamp of approval might be better in that case.

Fuck, now I gotta take a shower, I feel quite filthy.

Edit: Oh, oh! An hf4 stamp of approval would be even better!


Approved.

Glenfarclas 15 has a whole lot of complexity for what really is a relatively young whisky. It's also nicely balanced so it tastes more like an 18 or 25 year old bottle. The only caveat would be that you have to be partial to a sherried whisky profile to fully appreciate it.
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Post #70 by I have herpes » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:39 pm

dempsey_k wrote:How many times have you guys had 50yr old+ stuff? I want to be rich so I can exclusively drink that. Having some Canadian Mist whisky after that is like going from steak to starchy beef jerky.


I once banged a chick in her fourties when I was a horny 20 year old. That was enough. Beef jerkey is a good description.


I stick with 18 year olds now

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Post #71 by IcE ColD » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:13 am

Bought a bottle of Balvenie 12 this week-end.

Fuck, this shit is awesome!!!
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Post #72 by AD » Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:43 pm

Talisker cask strenght 57%. With a smidgeon of water. Fuckin fantastic.

Tough to wake up today. Cask strenght bottles have a tendency to sneak up on you.
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Post #73 by PPJ » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:13 pm

Just opening up the 40 year old Glenglassaugh my boss gave me for Christmas. Not much of a scotch drinker. Does it go good with Coca Cola?
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Post #74 by AD » Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:30 pm

About to taste a Japanese blend. Report to come.
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Post #75 by AD » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:53 pm

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Post #76 by IcE ColD » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:52 am

Received a bottle of Glengoyne 12 and Hazelburn 12 for Christmas. Have yet to crack 'em open. Will keep you posted, but don't hold your breath for a review.
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Post #77 by PPJ » Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:40 pm

IcE ColD wrote:Received a bottle of Glengoyne 12 and Hazelburn 12 for Christmas. Have yet to crack 'em open. Will keep you posted, but don't hold your breath for a review.


I'll just read reviews on the net from people who know what they are talking about.
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Post #78 by habfan4 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:30 pm

AD wrote:About to taste a Japanese blend. Report to come.


We're still waiting :squint:

All in all, Japanese Whisky is pretty tasty, drank a fair amount of it in Tokyo and Kyoto.
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Post #79 by Craig » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:32 pm

I've tried two of them that rolled through the LCBO. If memory serves, I very much liked the cheaper one, but didn't care for the more expensive one.

Has anyone tried the new wheat whisky from the Toronto Distillery Co?
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Post #81 by Not » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:35 pm

Just picked up a Johnie Double Black and an Aberlour 12 for 90$ in NJ
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Post #82 by Craig » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:41 am



How the heck do they have tobacco on there but not peat?
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Post #83 by AD » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:44 am

Craig wrote:How the heck do they have tobacco on there but not peat?


They've somehow confounded all smoke and peat together. Meh.. still not bad.
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Post #84 by Craig » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:52 am

AD wrote:They've somehow confounded all smoke and peat together. Meh.. still not bad.


Yeah, but they can split wine and fruit, honey and sweet, but smoke and peat are the same thing?

I dig the charts, they're actually super useful if you're considering a bottle you've never tried or heard of, but that's a glaring omission.
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Post #85 by habfan4 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:21 am

AD wrote:They've somehow confounded all smoke and peat together. Meh.. still not bad.


Well they burn peat to dry the malt so they kind of go hand-in-hand.

The fact that the graphs show lots of smoke for Islay Whisky (Bunnahabhain being the exception) makes it decent enough.
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Post #86 by Craig » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:39 am

habfan4 wrote:Well they burn peat to dry the malt so they kind of go hand-in-hand.

The fact that the graphs show lots of smoke for Islay Whisky (Bunnahabhain being the exception) makes it decent enough.


Yes, but the way they burn the peat can impart different flavours, from a more ashy smoke to a more peaty smoke.
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Post #87 by habfan4 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:49 am

Craig wrote:Yes, but the way they burn the peat can impart different flavours, from a more ashy smoke to a more peaty smoke.


I don't disagree. I should have been more specific and stated that I was focusing on Islay which is almost exclusively peat smoke i.e. Ardbeg or Lagavulin.
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Post #88 by Craig » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:01 am

habfan4 wrote:I don't disagree. I should have been more specific and stated that I was focusing on Islay which is almost exclusively peat smoke i.e. Ardbeg or Lagavulin.


As far as I know, all the smokey notes in Whisky do come from peat smoke or primarily peat smoke (some modern distilleries just sprinkle peat on wood fires, which maximizes the extraction of the peat) but how you treat the peat and what kind of peat you're using will impart different flavours.

I suppose you could get smoke by drying the malt with a pure wood fire or something, but I don't know of any distillers that do it. Heck, if you're a real piece of shit you could just add chemical smoke.
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Post #89 by Pabst Plays Westboro » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:43 pm

I'm currently enjoying a nice glass of Laphroaig Quarter Cask. Nice and peaty. Very smooth for a 48%, wouldn't have known if I hadn't looked at the bottle.

As someone fairly new to scotch, I've also enjoyed Islay Mist 8. I know it's a blend but it's been on sale at the LCBO for $27 and for that price, it's better then most whiskey in that ball park. Can anyone recommend other peaty/smokey scotch at a moderate price range? I'm a student so finances are key, but if it's that good, I'd be willing to splurge.

Also, I went to a Macallan tasting at the Museum of Nature here in Ottawa for their new 1842 line and it was fairly underwhelming, considering the prices of the bottles. With that said, I shouldn't be scoffing at free scotch, regardless of the quality. The presentation was nice, informative and not pushing the product too much. If it comes to either Montreal or Toronto, I'd recommend it to any of you guys.
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Post #90 by habfan4 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:55 pm

Bowmore 12 Year Old is probably the most approachable of the Islay malts you'll find.
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Post #91 by AD » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:15 pm

habfan4 wrote:Bowmore 12 Year Old is probably the most approachable of the Islay malts you'll find.


Yes but it doesn't have the body to back it up like other Bowmores. I wouldn't want to turn off anybody from Bowmore (which is one of my faves)

At a decent price range, I recommend Caol Ila. Though maybe less peaty I find it quite good and cheaper than other Islays.

Talisker 10, from the Isle of Skye is also rather peaty and at a decentish price.
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Post #92 by Craig » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:21 pm

AD wrote:Yes but it doesn't have the body to back it up like other Bowmores. I wouldn't want to turn off anybody from Bowmore (which is one of my faves)

At a decent price range, I recommend Caol Ila. Though maybe less peaty I find it quite good and cheaper than other Islays.

Talisker 10, from the Isle of Skye is also rather peaty and at a decentish price.


Talisker is easily the best of those three for me, but it's also 82 bucks, so well outside the price range I bet. Caol Ila is like 80 bucks too.

You could also try a Glen Garioch, which comes in around the same price as a Bowmore. For 5 bucks more you could get a Highland Park which is probably a little peatier.
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Post #93 by AD » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:47 pm

I thought I had found them for cheaper. Hunh.
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Post #94 by Craig » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:06 pm

AD wrote:I thought I had found them for cheaper. Hunh.


Might be a Quebec/Ontario thing.
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Post #95 by habfan4 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:36 pm

I stand by the Bowmore 12 suggestion - particularly as its available for $55 a bottle. There are better whiskies but not many at that price point.
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Post #96 by IcE ColD » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:08 pm

Picked up a bottle of Aberlour 10. Quite good.

But of course, it's a Speyside.
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Post #97 by AD » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:37 am

Bought a 1l bottle of 18 year old Glenlivet coming back from upstate NY. $70. Can't beat that price.

I'm not a fan of Glenlivet but the 18 year old is well balanced and really, in Quebec, $70 barely gets you in the door of the good stuff.

I've re-stocked myself recently.

I have sone Dalwhinnie which I received as a gift (meh.. it hits the spot).

I bought a bottle of Jura, a bottle of Bowmore and a bottle of Talisker. Three staples for me and all reasonably under $100.

I still have a few drams of Macallan 25.
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Post #98 by Jedrik » Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:29 pm

I like thar 18 y/o Glenlivet a lot, and I even like the 15. Still have some of each from last year.
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Post #99 by MP » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:33 pm

So will the price of scotch increased or decrease if Scotland seperates?

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