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Post #1 by gr » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:23 pm

VLoo wrote:I'm an uncultured mongoloid who enjoys Budweiser, and don't particularly care for IPAs or anything that is overly hoppy, where would a sod like me begin to try to open up his beer horizons?


Hefeweizens/Dunkelweizens. Widmer's perhaps. Maybe pick up Widmer's Drifter Pale Ale too.
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Post #2 by freakin » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:57 am

Chocolate beer is pretty vile.
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Post #3 by Murphy » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:32 pm

Harpoon's beers are terrible.

I picked up a bunch of beers in Burlington.(Victory, Lagunitas, Rogue and Dogfish Head for the most part) I also bought some of the Dogfish Head IPA glasses, looking forward to trying them out.
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Post #4 by NyQuil » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:48 pm

I tried an Amsterdam Boneshaker today.

It has a decent hoppy aftertaste, and some honey sweetness in the middle, but overall, I found the malt in it to be too mild and just not as tasty and flavourful as the Mad Tom.

Murphy wrote:Harpoon's beers are terrible.


The only Harpoon I've ever liked is their Octoberfest.
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Post #5 by NyQuil » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:49 pm

Big#D wrote:i may just do that. thanks for the suggestion.

but really, i've never liked wheat beers - regardless whether they are clear or not. there's something about the taste that alway bothered me.


Some people complain that they are too musky, floral or perfume-like.
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Post #6 by Murphy » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:59 pm

NyQuil wrote:I tried an Amsterdam Boneshaker today.

It has a decent hoppy aftertaste, and some honey sweetness in the middle, but overall, I found the malt in it to be too mild and just not as tasty and flavourful as the Mad Tom.



The only Harpoon I've ever liked is their Octoberfest.


I remember their Raspberry Hefe at the Mondiale and enjoying it...but I was pretty drunk at that point...

I had a Hill Farmstead and Lawson's Triple Play IPA at the Farmhouse in Burlington and both we're great.
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Post #7 by Craig » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:59 am

Amsterdam released an odd beer yesterday. They're calling it a Wheat Wine. It's like a wheat beer, but made to the style of a barley wine. I don't know when I'll get around to trying it, but it's going to be unique for sure.
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Post #8 by Murphy » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:05 pm

The Dogfish Head IPA Glass is the real deal. It absolutely improves the flavour and helps tone done some of the harsh bite you can feel on the tongue.
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Post #9 by BlackRedGold » Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:17 pm

Had a chance to have multiple pints of Nickel Brook Naughty Neighbour American Pale Ale last night. Good stuff. Up there with Crazy Canuck and Sierra Nevada Pale Ale in my books.
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Post #10 by BlackRedGold » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:41 pm

Dunham Imperial India - pours a hazy dirty light brown with a thick dense head. This is too boozy for me. Not nearly as sweet as Twice as Mad Tom when it comes to IIPA's. Not terrible but it's the biggest disappointment I've had from Dunham in awhile.

But Dunham's Leo Early Breakfast IPA is back on Quebec shelves and I got a sixer of it too. So damn good. Had two people working at the store highly recommend it unsolicited. It's gone up in price though.
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Post #11 by clawfirst » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:58 pm

I haven't had a decent toms in months. is my mouth broken or did they change something? boneshaker still tastes the same and is now number one go to in my fridge.
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Post #12 by Craig » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:18 pm

Fisty,

There are a few decent IPAs in the LCBO right now you might want to try. Hop Circle, Founders Centennial and Rogue Brutal. I like them Rogue, Founders, Hop circle in that order, but they're all good. It just depends on what hop profile you like.
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Post #13 by clawfirst » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:24 pm

I just want my mouth raped by hops.

I think my mouth is actually broken. nothing tastes the same anymore.
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Post #14 by BlackRedGold » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:39 pm

Craig wrote:Fisty,

There are a few decent IPAs in the LCBO right now you might want to try. Hop Circle, Founders Centennial and Rogue Brutal. I like them Rogue, Founders, Hop circle in that order, but they're all good. It just depends on what hop profile you like.


Don't forget about Green Flash plus Elysium and Sam Adams are on their way. I've also heard that Nickel Brook has improved Headstock.
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Post #15 by clawfirst » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:43 pm

I've had greenflash. ruined by lcbo in shipping.

Best mouth rape hops I've had in six months is victory hop wollup.


Coffee doesn't taste right either lately, pretty sure my mouth is broken.
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Post #16 by BlackRedGold » Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:08 pm

Founders Centennial IPA - I was expecting to be blown away but it just turned out to be a good IPA but nothing better than the best of what Ontario already brews. I'm following it up with a Nickel Brook Headstock IPA and I think I prefer it. The only issue might be how fresh the Founders stock at the LCBO is.
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Post #18 by TGR » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:04 pm

More like 'How to catch a sucker for stupid marketing and piss beer'.
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Post #19 by clawfirst » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:48 pm

Camerons Rye Pale Ale.

Amber, nice lacing. can't see my fingers through my tulip. Delivers. All around win.

Overpriced....worth it.
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Post #20 by PredsFan77 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:21 pm

is that 90 minute shit any good? I'm getting tired of my fat tires. Either going to go for that or the smuttynose brown ale./
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Post #21 by clawfirst » Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:31 pm

Probably too much beer for you off the top. start with a brit style IPA maybe
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Post #22 by NyQuil » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:22 pm

PredsFan77 wrote:is that 90 minute shit any good? I'm getting tired of my fat tires. Either going to go for that or the smuttynose brown ale./


Might be my favourite beer.

Has a terrific floral sweetness to start, with a boozy middle and then drops the hammer with the hoppy finish.
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Post #23 by jester » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:29 pm

I'm assuming we're talking Dogfish... and 90 min IPA is the nectar of the fucking gods. It's always a nice surprise when it's on tap around here, too.
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Post #24 by PredsFan77 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:52 pm

I had the smuttynose.
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Post #25 by BlackRedGold » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:57 pm

Green Flash West Coast IPA - a little over a month old from the LCBO. Good but I don't think it is worth the premium price over the best Ontario IPA's. Has a creamier mouthfeel than other IPA's.
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Post #26 by clawfirst » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:04 pm

They don't even ship it refrigerated. Id bet it was really good before lcbo ruined it. But I had the same experience.
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Post #27 by Craig » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:14 pm

Well, I'm glad I missed it then. I snagged some of the Sam Adams 48 IPA today and some strange Italian IPA, looking forward to trying them.
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Post #28 by BlackRedGold » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:07 pm

clawfirst wrote:They don't even ship it refrigerated. Id bet it was really good before lcbo ruined it. But I had the same experience.


Is it standard for beers to get shipped refrigerated outside of Ontario? It wasn't ruined. The bottles of Racer 5 I have in my basement are ruined. This was not.
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Post #29 by clawfirst » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:11 pm

BlackRedGold wrote:Is it standard for beers to get shipped refrigerated outside of Ontario? It wasn't ruined. The bottles of Racer 5 I have in my basement are ruined. This was not.


Not at all
But they go from cali through texas and north. its a long,warm ride. I had maybe 6,4 packs of varying quality, some with floaters.

was the run prior to this, probably December.
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Post #30 by BlackRedGold » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:21 pm

clawfirst wrote:Not at all
But they go from cali through texas and north. its a long,warm ride. I had maybe 6,4 packs of varying quality, some with floaters.

was the run prior to this, probably December.



I understand the initial release of it was sitting in the LCBO warehouse for months before it hit the shelves. This time around it hit the shelves pretty quickly.
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Post #31 by clawfirst » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:23 pm

could be. What I had seemed like a good beer ruined in travel. Ill have to buy it again
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Post #32 by Craig » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:26 pm

The LCBO are famous for ruining beers by just holding them in the warehouse for too long for no reason. One of the best beers they've ever had, Kuhnhenn 4d, is wasting away in their warehouse right now. It should hit shelves sometime next week, for the third week in a row.
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Post #33 by Murphy » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:22 pm

Refrigeration doesnt do anything for preserving beers.

It's light that is the problem.

Lentgh of time is another culprit.
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Post #34 by clawfirst » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:36 pm

I find it difficult to believe the excessive heat of three days in the back of a trailer going through cali and texas helps to preserve the beer. I'm thinking more climate control than what we think of as refrigeration.
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Post #35 by Murphy » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:40 pm

clawfirst wrote:I find it difficult to believe the excessive heat of three days in the back of a trailer going through cali and texas helps to preserve the beer. I'm thinking more climate control than what we think of as refrigeration.


http://craftbeerusa.blogspot.ca/2008/07/can-you-take-heat.html
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Post #36 by Craig » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:18 pm

Murphy wrote:Refrigeration doesnt do anything for preserving beers.

It's light that is the problem.

Lentgh of time is another culprit.


It does too. The oils in hops degrade slower in cooler temperatures. Sitting warm for a couple of hours won't do anything noticeable to a beer, but sitting warm for a couple of months will spoil most of the hops.
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Post #37 by habfan4 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:04 pm

Having a Two Brothers Northwind Imperial Stout and it's outrageously good.
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Post #38 by CerebralGenesis » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:56 pm

Double IPA from Great Lakes Brewery is a god send.
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Post #39 by Craig » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:43 am

Kuhnhenn 4d is officially on LCBO shelves as of today. Go get one. This is (reportedly, I haven't tried it yet) a very special beer the likes of which rarely hits LCBO shelves. It's rated pretty similarly to the Westvleteren's that everyone lost their shit over a few months ago, but they're half the price.

There's also a very limited supply of a couple of cellared beers from Goose Island in Chicago, which is an incredible brewery. They're like champagne beers, which some people love.
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Post #40 by NyQuil » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:12 am

Craig wrote:Kuhnhenn 4d is officially on LCBO shelves as of today.


I've been waiting for this since the spring list came out.
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Post #41 by BlackRedGold » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:35 am

Craig wrote:Kuhnhenn 4d is officially on LCBO shelves as of today. Go get one. This is (reportedly, I haven't tried it yet) a very special beer the likes of which rarely hits LCBO shelves. It's rated pretty similarly to the Westvleteren's that everyone lost their shit over a few months ago, but they're half the price.


None in stock in Ottawa according to the LCBO's site. The LCBO really fucks over Ottawa. The Soo has it but nowhere in Ottawa?
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Post #42 by habfan4 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:36 am

Craig wrote:Kuhnhenn 4d is officially on LCBO shelves as of today. Go get one. This is (reportedly, I haven't tried it yet) a very special beer the likes of which rarely hits LCBO shelves. It's rated pretty similarly to the Westvleteren's that everyone lost their shit over a few months ago, but they're half the price.

There's also a very limited supply of a couple of cellared beers from Goose Island in Chicago, which is an incredible brewery. They're like champagne beers, which some people love.


I'll second the Goose Island recommendation, I honestly can't think of a beer they produce that I don't like. Honker's, 312, Green Line, Matilda etc... I must have drank my weight in the stuff last weekend in Chicago. Obviously some are better than others.
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Post #43 by Craig » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:42 am

BlackRedGold wrote:None in stock in Ottawa according to the LCBO's site. The LCBO really fucks over Ottawa. The Soo has it but nowhere in Ottawa?


Call your local and ask. The website often doesn't get updated for a day or two after the stock is actually out.
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Post #44 by BlackRedGold » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:43 am

Craig wrote:Call your local and ask. The website often doesn't get updated for a day or two after the stock is actually out.


I'll just go over. I'm headed there to pick up a Hopwired anyway.
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Post #45 by Craig » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:52 am

BlackRedGold wrote:I'll just go over. I'm headed there to pick up a Hopwired anyway.


That's a good option, but be sure to ask someone to check the back. I did that yesterday to get mine.

Also, a warning on the hopwired. The batch is from December 11, 2012, which is getting a little on the old side for an IPA. So plan on drinking it soon, or it will just be bland and boring.
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Post #46 by MP » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:01 pm

Craig wrote:Kuhnhenn 4d is officially on LCBO shelves as of today. Go get one. This is (reportedly, I haven't tried it yet) a very special beer the likes of which rarely hits LCBO shelves. It's rated pretty similarly to the Westvleteren's that everyone lost their shit over a few months ago, but they're half the price.

There's also a very limited supply of a couple of cellared beers from Goose Island in Chicago, which is an incredible brewery. They're like champagne beers, which some people love.


I picked up 8 of the 4d in Kingston today. Also grabbed a bottle of matador from flying monkeys, a couple of brutal ipa from rogue and a couple maibock from LTM. The hop wired is pretty good, but I can imagine it tasted better a couple months ago...

Craig how was that bia ipa?
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Post #47 by Craig » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:02 pm

Masterplan wrote:I picked up 8 of the 4d in Kingston today. Also grabbed a bottle of matador from flying monkeys, a couple of brutal iPad from rogue and a couple maibock from LTM. The hop wired is pretty good, but I can imagine it tasted better a couple months ago...

Craig how was that bia ipa?


It was ok, but nothing special.

I gotta get my hands on some of those Matadors. It's been a while since I've had any.

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