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Post #301 by chicpea » Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:51 am

19nazzy wrote:I have made trades in the past not to my benefit to ensure that I hit those GP minimums.


That's the thing. So have I. Sacrificed players to meet the rules. If the existing rules aren't enforced, then people who have traded to meet them are fucked over. It's nothing against Lifer, who is a good gm and person. It's just...rules. That said, I abstained in the vote.
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Post #303 by MP » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:33 am

Craig wrote:I say every year the minimums don't actually do anything now that the draft order is based on points per game played instead of total points, but nobody ever listens to me. I assume it's because most of you are really dumb.

And you'd be wrong on both accounts.
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Post #304 by mayoradamwest » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:38 am

we will have an issue with minimums this year (separate issue.) It sounds like a condensed/short schedule. Pro-rating is fine, but there's going to be more back to backs and so traditional starters are going to play less.
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Post #305 by MP » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:41 am

Last year we scraped the minimum requirement due to the season being cancelled. We will prorate the minimums to suit the new schedule. If the league gets cancelled again the mins will be dropped again.
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Post #307 by chicpea » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:26 pm

For my friend empee and his assistant, who is also my friend:

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Post #308 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:58 pm

We might have some very frequent COVID-related absences this season. For this reason, I propose we have a conversation at some point about expanding the IR - especially for COVID cases.
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Post #309 by mayoradamwest » Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:21 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:We might have some very frequent COVID-related absences this season. For this reason, I propose we have a conversation at some point about expanding the IR - especially for COVID cases.


Hmmmmmmmm........
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Post #310 by PredsFan77 » Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:39 pm

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Post #311 by MP » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:07 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:We might have some very frequent COVID-related absences this season. For this reason, I propose we have a conversation at some point about expanding the IR - especially for COVID cases.

Why would you keep a dying player?
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Post #312 by mayoradamwest » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:22 pm

yeah, I don't think I need to stash anymore LTIR folks on my roster. happy to have Klefbom next year though.
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Post #313 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:34 pm

Hey, don't be shocked to see a team or two or three get quarantined in the middle of the season. KHL has kept the season going with replacement rosters. Not sure what they would do in the NHL.
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Post #314 by PredsFan77 » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:35 pm

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Post #315 by mayoradamwest » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:47 pm

inappropriate access to vaccines :smuglanne:
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Post #316 by cawbber » Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:56 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:We might have some very frequent COVID-related absences this season. For this reason, I propose we have a conversation at some point about expanding the IR - especially for COVID cases.

COVIR?
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Post #317 by KesselsNut » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:18 pm

I'm in favour of unlimited COVIR spots
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Post #319 by chicpea » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:21 am

So did we every decide anything on this? We best do so promptly as camps are opening this weekend I think.

The other thing we need to figure out is....

T A X I ' S Q U A D S


If you've not heard, these squads are a covid mechanism whereby teams can have an assigned shadow group of players who are available at all times to be on their roster (whether on paper or in actuality) should someone get suddenly ill. These players will likely all be AHL players (green flags).

Now, perhaps I'm being too much of a nervous Norman, but I do worry this new covid mechanism could cause logistical problems for our rosters when it comes to flags/call-ups/cap space.

Here is a partial breakdown:

ontheforecheck . com wrote:The taxi squad will comprise four to six players. Those players on the squad who require waivers will still be held to those same rules, and recalls must happen before 5 p.m. The new rules also require that a goalie be part of the squad if a third goalie is not already part of the regular season roster.

Here’s where things get interesting: because the taxi squads will likely be made up of AHL players, they will be treated as such for the entirety of their stay on the squad. This means they can practice with the team, join team activities, and travel, but aren’t allowed to participate in AHL activities. This also means there will be no cap hit for players on the squad—it will be treated like buried cap space, as if they were playing in the minors, as stated in the tweet above—and if a player is injured, they will be treated as if it occurred while playing in the minors. As for compensation, two-way players will receive “minors” salary, while one-way players will receive the standard NHL salary rate, again according to CapFriendly
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And here is Capfriendly's breakdown (tweet below):

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I guess my concern is that fantrax is going to fuck this up somehow because there is going to be a lot of movement and it could require significant manual manipulation by empee and Dr C.

https://www.ontheforecheck.com/2020/12/22/22194493/breaking-down-the-taxi-squad-ahead-of-the-2021-nhl-season-nashville-predators-ahl-call-ups



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Post #320 by PredsFan77 » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:27 am

is manual manipulation a code word for masturbation?
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Post #321 by chicpea » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:29 am

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Post #322 by PredsFan77 » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:59 am

well then I don't see why it would be any different than usual, chicpea.






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Post #323 by PredsFan77 » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:00 am

get it? because they're both chronic masturbators
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Post #324 by Craig » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:03 am

What manual manipulation? I assume fantrax will just assign minors flags to players on the taxi squad? I'm not really seeing the issue here, chicolait.
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Post #325 by chicpea » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:09 am

I guess my concern is simply that I don't know how they're going to handle it and that could create a lot of cap problems for people.

Just thought I'd throw it out there for people who aren't aware.
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Post #326 by mayoradamwest » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:30 pm

Just treat them as being in the minors. It’s not like key players will be going on there all the time.
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Post #327 by chicpea » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:42 pm

I guess we'll see if my concerns play out. I can see a lot of shenanigans happening.

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Post #328 by MP » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:51 pm

There's nothing to dicuss. Green flags are in the minors, non green flags are reserve or active. Manage your cap accordingly. Fin.
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Post #329 by MP » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:55 pm

The one note, is the bonus cap will end for games played on Feb. 1 and resume April 5th (the week before the trade deadline Apr. 12). Our deadline will be April 19th for all trades and free agency.
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Post #330 by chicpea » Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:27 pm

No need for hostility! Was just thinking of potential problems.
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Post #331 by chicpea » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:44 pm

FYI: NHL Trade deadline is April 12 this year.
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Post #332 by mayoradamwest » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:47 pm

fyi: there ain't no trade deadline like an S club deadline as said trade deadlines do not stop. It makes things difficult.
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Post #333 by Devilsfanatic » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:03 pm

I dunno who can fix this, but Jesper Bratt is still listed at 700K salary. His salary for this season is 2.75M if someone could make the right corrections.
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Post #334 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:40 pm

chicpea wrote:FYI: NHL Trade deadline is April 12 this year.


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Post #335 by chicpea » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:14 pm

Shawnathan Horcoff wrote:
chicpea wrote:FYI: NHL Trade deadline is April 12 this year.


See yas then.

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Post #336 by mayoradamwest » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:17 pm

seems taxi squad folk count against our cap? I'm here for it.
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Post #337 by Sailor Man » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:31 pm

I'm fine with Taxi Squad as is. I figure I'll be stashing Raz Asplund in reserve and counting him against my cap most of the season as he smokes hash in the parking lot.

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Post #338 by chicpea » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:47 pm

Whenever I'm thinking of killing myself, the themes from either MASH or Taxi pop into my head and bring me back.
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Post #340 by MP » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:28 am

Former max/min for the records:
C 296 min 328 max
W 592 min 656 max
D 444 min 492 max
G 120 min 140 max
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Post #341 by chicpea » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:50 am

A week into the league and fantrax decides to release this meagre statement:

"For leagues that use minor league slots, taxi squad players will not automatically be flagged as eligible for minors. Our data provider is maintaining these as active players as it will be a common occurrence for taxi squad players to be inserted into the lineup without being officially promoted to the NHL roster. You may consider adding extra reserve slots to your league's rosters."
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Post #342 by Devilsfanatic » Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:30 pm

Ya, just saw that. So what's the deal?
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Post #343 by MP » Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:05 pm

Devilsfanatic wrote:Ya, just saw that. So what's the deal?

The deal is: deal with it.
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Post #344 by mayoradamwest » Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:14 pm

Wheeling and dealing with it. :smuglanne:
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Post #345 by Devilsfanatic » Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:24 pm

MP wrote:
Devilsfanatic wrote:Ya, just saw that. So what's the deal?

The deal is: deal with it.


It doesn't really affect me anyway, it would be a wee bit helpful to not have em on the cap, but eh
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Post #346 by chicpea » Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:44 pm

Here is the math, guys, if you'd like to work it out for yourselves

C 296 min 328 max (min= 296/328=0.902439%*82 = 74*4 =296)
W 592 min 656 max (min=74*8 =92)
D 444 min 492 max (min=74*6=444)
G 120 min 140 max
(max is 70/82 games = 0.854*82=70 *2 = 140; min = 60/82 games = 0.7317 * 82 =60 *2 =120)

it's 90.2% and 100%

SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for this season...

C: Max = 224; Min = 0.902439 * 56 = 50.536584 * 4 = 202 (GOOD)
W: Max = 448; Min = 51 * 8 = 404 (GOOD)
D: Max = 336; Min = 51 * 6 = 303 (OFF BY 1)

G: Max = 0.854*56=47.824*2=96; Min = 82 (that is: 0.7317*56 = 40.9752 * 2 = 81.95)
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Post #347 by mayoradamwest » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:41 pm

Thinking of offering out Askarov for a bunch of picks and rentals :|
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Post #348 by Craig » Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:08 pm

Hey, I have those things!
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Post #349 by MP » Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:11 pm

chicpea wrote:Here is the math, guys, if you'd like to work it out for yourselves

C 296 min 328 max (min= 296/328=0.902439%*82 = 74*4 =296)
W 592 min 656 max (min=74*8 =92)
D 444 min 492 max (min=74*6=444)
G 120 min 140 max
(max is 70/82 games = 0.854*82=70 *2 = 140; min = 60/82 games = 0.7317 * 82 =60 *2 =120)

it's 90.2% and 100%

SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for this season...

C: Max = 224; Min = 0.902439 * 56 = 50.536584 * 4 = 202 (GOOD)
W: Max = 448; Min = 51 * 8 = 404 (GOOD)
D: Max = 336; Min = 51 * 6 = 303 (OFF BY 1)

G: Max = 0.854*56=47.824*2=96; Min = 82 (that is: 0.7317*56 = 40.9752 * 2 = 81.95)

I just took each number divided by 82 and multiplied by 56 and rounded where necessary.
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Post #350 by chicpea » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:22 pm

Yes. I told you I'm not very strong at math. I worked out about three ways to do it but that one was the most accurate and I needed to write down the percentages so I could have them for reference in future. I realize that will make little sense to you, but there you have it.

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