AD wrote:Read up on it guys.
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Earlier in the day, the couple had been attacked by Nedeljko Čabrinović, who had thrown a grenade at their car. However, the bomb detonated behind them, hurting the occupants in the following car. On arriving at the Governor's residence, Franz angrily shouted, "So this is how you welcome your guests — with bombs?!"[32]
After a short rest at the Governor's residence, the royal couple insisted on seeing all those who had been injured by the bomb at the local hospital. However, no one told the drivers that the itinerary had been changed. When the error was discovered, the drivers had to turn around. As the cars backed down the street and onto a side street, the line of cars stalled. At this same time, Princip was sitting at a cafe across the street. He instantly seized his opportunity and walked across the street and shot the royal couple.[32] He first shot Sophie in the abdomen and then shot Franz Ferdinand in the neck. Franz leaned over his wife crying. He was still alive when witnesses arrived to render aid.[4] His dying words to Sophie were, 'Don't die darling, live for our children.'[32] Princip's weapon was the pocket-sized FN Model 1910 pistol chambered for the .380 ACP cartridge provided him by Serbian Army Colonel and Black Hand member Dragutin Dimitrijević.[33] The archduke's aides attempted to undo his coat but realized they needed scissors to cut it open. It was too late; he died within minutes. Sophie also died en route to the hospital.
dempsey_k wrote:Reading a lot about the Eastern Front lately. It wasn't certain that the Nazis would have lost.
The Yak-9 and La-7 were possibly as good as or better than any German fighter (save the jets), and the P-51.
Ernie wrote:You've gotta think the first nuke would have been aimed straight at Hitler.
Ernie wrote:You've gotta think the first nuke would have been aimed straight at Hitler.
Ernie wrote:I thought the scenario was that Hitler had long tied up the Eastern Front by the time America developed the bomb.
I just don't see any value in liquidating German cities. Hitler would have let them all been obliterated and still wouldn't have given in.
It's a good question whether the bomb could have been delivered to Germany though. By the time the bomb was ready to go, Hitler would have had uncontested control over the European continent with all the resources he'd need to rebuild the Luftwaffe.
AD wrote:And possibly V2s carrying nuclear warheads.
AD wrote:And possibly V2s carrying nuclear warheads.
jester wrote:You think the Japanese Emperor was an easier sell on surrender? Sturm's point, however, is equally important. Hitler would almost certainly have had a revolt on his hands (already had problems there) if nukes started dropping on Germany.
It was at this moment that the East India Company (EIC) ceased to be a conventional corporation, trading and silks and spices, and became something much more unusual. Within a few years, 250 company clerks backed by the military force of 20,000 locally recruited Indian soldiers had become the effective rulers of Bengal. An international corporation was transforming itself into an aggressive colonial power.
We still talk about the British conquering India, but that phrase disguises a more sinister reality. It was not the British government that seized India at the end of the 18th century, but a dangerously unregulated private company headquartered in one small office, five windows wide, in London, and managed in India by an unstable sociopath – Clive.
dempsey_k wrote:Yes, worth remembering that the relationship between the crown and parliament and the EIC had been in interplay going back to the 17th century. The wealth the company brought back to England caused the established nobility to clamp down on them and try to get a piece of the action. It started a continual slide until full nationalization and imperialism. It all started with the granting of a monopoly IMO. If they had had british competitors, might've kept them honest enough to not have gone into the history books as blood soaked conquerers.
NyQuil wrote:Could another English king be buried under a car park?
Just three years after the extraordinary discovery of King Richard III under a car park, researchers think another medieval English monarch might be found buried beneath a parking lot and are hoping to find him.
Philippa Langley, the inspiration behind the successful hunt for Richard III's remains, is now on the trail of his forebear Henry I, one of the first rulers of England following the Norman conquest in the 11th Century.
http://news.yahoo.com/could-another-english-king-buried-under-car-park-092844115.html
Bernie Bernbaum wrote:I imagine this story is going to fly under the radar, to use a terrible turn of phrase, but this is huge. Wasn't even aware of the 2011 findings.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/evidence-m ... 36?cmp=rss
Bernie Bernbaum wrote:I imagine this story is going to fly under the radar, to use a terrible turn of phrase, but this is huge. Wasn't even aware of the 2011 findings.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/evidence-m ... 36?cmp=rss
Bernie Bernbaum wrote:I imagine this story is going to fly under the radar, to use a terrible turn of phrase, but this is huge. Wasn't even aware of the 2011 findings.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/evidence-m ... 36?cmp=rss
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