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Post #201 by Retardé S » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:23 pm

It's like trying to teach a fish not to swim.
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Post #202 by Retardé S » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:26 pm

"permit peaceful expression"

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Post #203 by Macbeth » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:03 am

There goes Indonesia.

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Post #204 by senate » Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:47 pm

Dog wrote:To be honest, did anybody even notice Indonesia was there in the first place?


Obviously you don't play enough Risk. Indonesia is the key to Fortress Australia.
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Post #205 by Craig » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:30 am

Are you joking? Siam was the key to Australia and thus the world.
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Post #206 by AD » Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:45 am

I beat my in-laws this past Christmas with a North Anerican centered strategy.
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Post #207 by Craig » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:20 am

Your in-laws suck at risk.
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Post #208 by IcE ColD » Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:15 am

I prefer starting off with Africa myself. Not that hard to protect once you've taken it, and then you can attack South America and expand the north of Africa border spilling in Europe. Once you're properly set up, you can attack North America from south and east.
This whole idea that we are even important is a fucking illusion. We’re just an accident left to our own devices.

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Post #209 by MP » Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:23 pm

Nope, winning North America and defending the 3 points of attack is the best strategy.
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Post #210 by AD » Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:28 pm

MP wrote:Nope, winning North America and defending the 3 points of attack is the best strategy.


That's what I did but I usually prefer Craig's Siam entry point and nibbling on Asia until you break out from Aus.
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Post #211 by IcE ColD » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:31 pm

We should do a Risk thread.
This whole idea that we are even important is a fucking illusion. We’re just an accident left to our own devices.

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Post #212 by MP » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:22 pm

IcE ColD wrote:We should do a Risk thread.

Are you suggesting risk strategy doesn't belong in a thread about international events?! Surely you jest....
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Post #213 by MP » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:26 pm

AD wrote:
MP wrote:Nope, winning North America and defending the 3 points of attack is the best strategy.


That's what I did but I usually prefer Craig's Siam entry point and nibbling on Asia until you break out from Aus.

Nah, I let others duke it out over the measly 2 extra armies, while I secure the 5 extra and Venezuela to prevent another player from fortifying SA which is my next conquest.
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Post #214 by Craig » Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:01 pm

No competent opponent would let you keep north America for a full turn. It's only 3 defense points, but it can be reached easily from almost any other position on the board. As soon as you get it, everyone else will team up and gang fuck you.

Australia works because it's so remote and people can't justify blowing their whole strategy just to displace your 2 extra armies. I've also had luck just fucking about in Asia getting bonus armies because nobody cares to take the worthless territories from you unless you get the while continent. You can build a nice reserve that way if you can keep everyone else unbalanced.
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Post #215 by AD » Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:51 am

While that's generally true, it becomes possible to play a NA strategy if someone is doing an Africa push, thus keeping SA and Europe busy.
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Post #216 by Craig » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:20 am

Only if you're playing bad people. I'd let someone keep Africa for a while to stop North America, because Africa isn't very defensible.
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Post #217 by AD » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:25 am

It's a balance. If you're trying to keep South America against Africa, you may not be in a position to threaten the southern USA.
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Post #218 by Craig » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:48 am

Because you're more afraid of a guy getting 3 breaking you than a guy getting 5? That's silly. Bad players.
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Post #219 by AD » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:05 am

Oh Craig..
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Post #220 by MP » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:36 am

AD wrote:Oh Craig..

I wouldn't worry about Craig, he'll be occupied in Siam...
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Post #221 by chicpea » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:24 pm

I play Risk. And I play it well.
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Post #222 by Dr_Chimera » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:59 am

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 704066.cms

"US relies heavily on Saudi Arab money to support Syrian rebels" - a recipe for success, no doubt.
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Post #223 by PredsFan77 » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:28 am

Hersh already had that
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Post #224 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Feb 13, 2016 3:03 am



Too taboo to go there.
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Post #225 by Dr_Chimera » Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:29 pm

In light of a certain one year anniversary, the real Nemtsov: https://pando.com/2015/03/02/boris-nemt ... n-liberal/
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Post #226 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:38 pm

Here is a pretty good twitter on Russia: https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR

Devoid of the typical Putin obsession, conspiracy theorizing and demographic number crunching. Rosenberg actually travels within Russia, talks to real people, reports on ordinary life and media rhetoric. Good stuff.
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Post #227 by Dr_Chimera » Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:57 pm

‘Corruption’ as a Propaganda Weapon
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/04/04/c ... da-weapon/
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Post #229 by The Bytown Boozer » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:28 pm

Pirate Party (!) poised for historic landslide victory.

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Post #230 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:14 pm



aka stuff Max Boot writes without batting an eye.
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Post #231 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:10 pm

Huge shocker here.


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Post #232 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:13 pm

Where are all the Americans in the Panama Papers?
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Post #233 by AD » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:43 am

Tina Turner is going down man! That's not enough for you? Have you no heart?!
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Post #235 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:22 am

AD wrote:Tina Turner is going down man! That's not enough for you? Have you no heart?!


Tina too? I am pretty broken up about Jackie Chan.
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Post #236 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:27 pm

Why Putin benefits from Panama leaks more than anything: http://streetwiseprofessor.com/?p=9906# ... qXaSPb8yza
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Post #237 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:32 am

Bill Browder and the Magnitsky family are having a bit of a difficult week. http://www.politico.eu/article/meps-dra ... cumentary/
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Post #239 by Dr_Chimera » Sun May 15, 2016 5:47 pm

Empire of good.

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Post #242 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:02 pm

Remember those Russian hackers who supposedly stole Trump oppo research? Appears to be another work of fiction (alongside the mysterious Russian troll army).

http://gawker.com/this-looks-like-the-d ... 1782040426
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Post #243 by Retardé S » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:08 am

Guccifer 2.0? Good try, Hillary.
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Post #244 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:58 pm

Flashback. Link: http://articles.latimes.com/1996-07-09/ ... is-yeltsin

Americans Claim Role in Yeltsin Win
Russia: Consultants say they spent months in Moscow secretly devising U.S.-style strategy.
July 09, 1996|ELEANOR RANDOLPH | TIMES STAFF WRITER

WASHINGTON — A team of American political strategists who helped Gov. Pete Wilson with his abortive presidential bid earlier this year said this week that they served as Russian President Boris N. Yeltsin's secret campaign weapon in his comeback win over a Communist challenger.

And while some Muscovites are debating whether the Americans saved Yeltsin's job or merely provided one voice among many working to revive the Russian president's political chances, the consultants have now emerged to give interviews about how they quietly peddled advice to Yeltsin's 36-year-old daughter and key advisor, Tatyana Dyachenko.

"I don't have candidates generally who are as responsive as Boris Yeltsin," said George Gorton, who worked for Wilson in 1994 and later ran Wilson's abortive bid for the GOP nomination. "Certainly not Pete Wilson."

Hired in February through a San Francisco firm with connections in Moscow, Gorton said that the team members never met Yeltsin. Instead, they sent their detailed, unsigned memos to his daughter. "We were told that we were formally retained as advisors to the Yeltsin family."

Although the Americans spoke no Russian and worked through translators, they began secretly laying out an American-style campaign to counter the public sentiment running against Yeltsin.

When they started, Yeltsin's approval rating was about 6%, and, as they told Time magazine, Josef Stalin had a higher positive rating in their polls. Yet last week, Yeltsin defeated Communist candidate Gennady A. Zyuganov by more than 13 percentage points.


The funniest part in all of this is that it was the US-backed Yeltsin who later named Putin his successor.

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Post #245 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:42 pm

Vlad, I am disappoint.

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Post #246 by Dr_Chimera » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:15 am

American corporations: serving tyrants close to the US since forever.

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Recent studies indicate that partisan electoral interventions, a situation where a foreign power tries to determine the election results in another country, can have significant effects on the election results in the targeted country as well as other important influences. Nevertheless, research on this topic has been hindered by a lack of systematic data of electoral interventions. In this article, I introduce the Partisan Electoral Intervention by the Great Powers dataset (PEIG), which provides data on all such interventions by the US and the USSR/Russia between 1946 and 2000. After describing the dataset construction process, I note some interesting patterns in the data, a few of which stand in contrast to claims made about electoral interventions in the public sphere and give an example of PEIG’s utility. I then describe some applications of PEIG for research on electoral interventions in particular and for peace research in general.
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Post #248 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:14 pm

Don't like Bershidsky, but this is a good piece.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... me-nervous

I'm an Anti-Putin Russian and Clinton Makes Me Nervous
Oct 11, 2016 9:00 AM EDT

Whoever wins the U.S. presidential election will have a hard time dealing with Russia: The relationship between the two countries is in tatters. Donald Trump obviously doesn’t have any answers. Yet, like most of my fellow Russians who follow the race, I also have misgivings about Hillary Clinton -- even though, unlike most of them, I am an active opponent of President Vladimir Putin.

The last time an independent polling organization -- the Levada Center -- polled Russians on the U.S. presidential candidates was in August. Only 12 percent said they were following the election closely, and 73 percent said they’d heard something about it. Among the news junkies, 39 percent said Donald Trump would be a better U.S. president for Russia, while 15 percent said Clinton would be better. The state-owned pollster, VTsIOM, did its latest poll in July, finding about the same proportion of curious Russians. That survey revealed that 34 percent of those who’d heard of Trump thought Russia-U.S. relations would improve under him; only 6 percent of those who’d heard about Clinton believed that of her.

In part, that can be explained by the effect of Putin’s propaganda machine, which has been giving Trump more favorable coverage than Clinton for two reasons. First, Russian state TV always backs populist rebels in any Western country on the theory that whatever weakens the Western establishment is good for Russia. Second, Putin and Clinton openly dislike each other. She says she sees in him a cold-blooded, self-enriching KGB agent and a bully; he remembers how she appeared to encourage protests against him in 2011.

Those reasons matter little to me. I believe Russia’s place is in an open, free-thinking Western world, and that nationalist populists, including Trump, are destroying that vision of the West. I took part in the 2011 protests and I agree with Clinton’s assessment of Putin. And yet I, too, think a Clinton presidency would be bad for Russia -- and that would ultimately hurt the U.S. as well.

Clinton’s positions on Russia are based on simplistic ideological lines. In a campaign speech in late August, she branded Putin “the grand godfather of this global brand of extreme nationalism” -- the brand espoused by anti-immigrant political parties in Europe. Indeed, if one took at face value Putin’s recent efforts to build a “conservative” ideology as an intellectual basis for its rule and his propaganda’s backing of European nationalists, such a description would be justified. Nothing in Russia can be taken at face value, however.

Putin’s domestic ideology, based on Orthodox Christianity and imperial patriotism, is skin-deep and inconsistent. Only 4 percent of Russians regularly attend church, even though 72 percent consider themselves Orthodox Christians. It’s difficult to impose fundamentalist values on a society that is used to the Soviet Union’s hostility to religion, has three times the abortion rate of the U.S. and contains large and autonomous Muslim and Buddhist populations.

Putin, who has donated a month’s salary to Moscow’s Jewish museum and who has opened mosques, is not an ideological ally of European nationalists like the National Front in France, who manage to be both anti-Semitic and Islamophobic. Right-wing populists talk with dread of Muslim “no-go zones” in European cities; Putin’s Russia has whole regions, notably Chechnya, where Russian laws are applied only if they are consistent with local and religious traditions. Putin’s government has been harsher than most European ones on ethnic nationalism, suppressing neo-Nazi groups with as much cruelty as it has shown Islamist terrorists.

When he came to power, Putin’s own ideology was the usual post-Soviet mix of economic neoliberalism, Communist internationalism and the veneration of a Russian history much rewritten by the Soviets. That it has acquired a veneer of right-wing nationalism is in large part the fault of Western leaders who, like Clinton, needed to place Putin on their mental maps and couldn’t quite do it. He was a post-Soviet chameleon, picking the colors that suited him at any given moment. That’s what happened with “conservatism”: He put on the colors of the camp that would accept him and not try to tell him what to do.

Putin, who has trampled on the Russian constitution in the most egregious ways, is an embodiment of its Article 13: “No ideology can be established as a government-imposed or obligatory one.”

The mismatch between an ideological Clinton and an opportunist Putin is fraught. Clinton has spoken many times about the need to undermine and contain dictators. In an interview with The Atlantic in 2014, she described her experience with the Arab Spring revolutions. “So you can go back and argue, should we have helped the people of Libya try to overthrow a dictator who, remember, killed Americans and did a lot of other bad stuff, or we should have been on the sidelines,” she said. It’s clear which option she favored then, boasting, famously, after Moammar Al Qaddafi’s death: “We came, we saw, he died.”

It’s easy to agree with this “democracy good, dictatorship bad” approach, but harder to imagine what it will mean in practice. In Ukraine, for example, trying to thwart Putin could mean buying the line President Petro Poroshenko is trying to sell to the West -- that his opportunistic, thoroughly post-Soviet government is a beacon of freedom and a shield against the Russian plague. Poroshenko’s fondest wish is to get lethal weapons from the U.S., but granting it would probably lead to an even more destructive and deadly phase of the now-frozen conflict. What will the U.S. do if Ukraine is overrun by Russian troops as a result? Neither Clinton nor anyone else in Washington has even discussed this possibility in public.

In Syria, President Bashar al-Assad is obviously a dictator, and he’s tight with Putin to boot. Clinton had urged President Barack Obama to be more resolute in removing him by aiding the Syrian opposition. What if President Clinton uses force more directly against Assad? Will Putin shrink from some kind of military confrontation with the U.S.? I fear not: Russian generals have been itching for such a test for the last few years, since Russia has rearmed and reformed its military. And if the confrontation occurs, consequences will be even more unpredictable than from arming Ukraine.

The Obama administration has espoused the same ideology as Clinton, but it has pulled back from actual conflict with Putin’s Russia. It has probably exhausted its opportunities to keep doing both. Putin has seen the pattern and resolved to remain the first mover, not expecting much American pushback except in words. The next administration will have to act, and there are three distinct courses of action open.

One is to remove the ideological red lines, allow that Russia may hold on to Crimea and Assad may remain in power in Syria, and try to make pragmatic deals with Putin -- for example, siding with him against the Islamic State. Another is to act as forcefully as possible in both Ukraine and Syria, risking a military confrontation with Russia but hoping Putin will be intimidated and desist. The third option is to step up economic sanctions against Russia and wait for the Putin regime to collapse for economic reasons while avoiding a direct show of force.

My fear is that Clinton will choose one of the latter two options or a combination of them. That will enable Putin to step up the anti-Western hysteria in Russia -- and almost force him to pick up the gauntlet as soon as possible, before Russia collapses economically. He has proven many times that he doesn’t have a reverse gear. His recent ultimatum to the U.S. is proof that he’s willing to play the escalation game. A military escalation between Russia and the U.S. could have dramatic consequences for my country -- and also for the U.S. if it allows itself to be dragged into war with such a dangerous rival.

Clinton halfheartedly tried the realpolitik option with Russia during the infamous “reset.” Her heart wasn’t in it, and Putin felt he was being duped rather than offered real carrots to join forces with the U.S. As president, Clinton probably won’t give it another, better try. I wish someone would, though: Russia cannot easily be forced onto a democratic, Western path.

That’s why I would prefer a more flexible leader, equally good with carrot and stick, to lead the U.S. It’s likely, however, that no such leader exists in the current lineup. Trump is unpredictable, which is the worst thing to be. And that’s where I disagree with most of my compatriots.
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Post #249 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:15 pm

Dog wrote:Have you been seeing tweets about Aleppo too, per chance?


Zenko's tweets?
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Re: Broads Thread on the Abroad

Post #250 by Craig » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:13 pm

That was an interesting read on Putin, but I felt like it was criticising Clinton for trying to read Putin at face value, while basically reading her statements at face value. Taking shit about Putin during a campaign is to be expected.

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