Game of Thrones

jester · Post #401 by **jester** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:09 am

There were rumors that the next book was going to come out next fall (not happening, it seems). Basically, the show catching up with GRRM--and the dawning realization he was losing control of his baby--has theoretically lit a bit of a fire under his ass. So, I have to imagine a large chunk of the next book exists in draft manuscript, if not a finished product, and the show runners are aware of its plot points. There's also the fact that he's released some completed chapters, so those have been through the editorial process already and shouldn't require much change, if any.

As someone that started reading these things in the 90s, it's rather disappointing that the show will reach the conclusion in advance of the books ... but that's entirely on GRRM. He's spent too much time dicking around with side projects, writing histories of Westeros, etc. and not enough time working on the central product.

RTWAP · Post #402 by **RTWAP** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:33 pm

Yah. I have no sympathy.

I was an avid reader of the first few and then I got to the book where Arya was the most interesting thing. I made the mistake of skipping ahead to all the Arya chapters. Once I'd done that I had no motivation to read the other chapters. That was it for me. That was 10 years ago. Man am I glad I haven't been eagerly waiting for the story to end.

PPJ · Post #403 by **PPJ** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:14 pm

jester wrote:There were rumors that the next book was going to come out next fall (not happening, it seems). Basically, the show catching up with GRRM--and the dawning realization he was losing control of his baby--has theoretically lit a bit of a fire under his ass. So, I have to imagine a large chunk of the next book exists in draft manuscript, if not a finished product, and the show runners are aware of its plot points. There's also the fact that he's released some completed chapters, so those have been through the editorial process already and shouldn't require much change, if any.

As someone that started reading these things in the 90s, it's rather disappointing that the show will reach the conclusion in advance of the books ... but that's entirely on GRRM. He's spent too much time dicking around with side projects, writing histories of Westeros, etc. and not enough time working on the central product.

He's probably already finished the thing and is just mind fucking people like you.

Transplanted Caper · Post #404 by **Transplanted Caper** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:43 am

Psycho Papa Joe wrote:
jester wrote:There were rumors that the next book was going to come out next fall (not happening, it seems). Basically, the show catching up with GRRM--and the dawning realization he was losing control of his baby--has theoretically lit a bit of a fire under his ass. So, I have to imagine a large chunk of the next book exists in draft manuscript, if not a finished product, and the show runners are aware of its plot points. There's also the fact that he's released some completed chapters, so those have been through the editorial process already and shouldn't require much change, if any.

As someone that started reading these things in the 90s, it's rather disappointing that the show will reach the conclusion in advance of the books ... but that's entirely on GRRM. He's spent too much time dicking around with side projects, writing histories of Westeros, etc. and not enough time working on the central product.

He's probably already finished the thing and is just mind fucking people like you.

Transplanted Caper · Post #405 by **Transplanted Caper** » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:25 pm

Finale ended as I expected it to with the Jon Snow scene.
Arya storyline went as I expected.
Didn't see the Sansa/Theon scene going down, but expect they're both fine and in a snowbank.
Not sure we'll much of Stannis, though they left it open ended

Devilsfanatic · Post #406 by **Devilsfanatic** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:32 am

Transplanted Caper wrote:Finale ended as I expected it to with the Jon Snow scene.
Arya storyline went as I expected.
Didn't see the Sansa/Theon scene going down, but expect they're both fine and in a snowbank.
Not sure we'll much of Stannis, though they left it open ended

How could you not see that? Theon saves Jeyne Poole and Jeyne has just been replaced with Sansa.

Dr_Chimera · Post #407 by **Dr_Chimera** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:42 am

They CGI'd the chick's face onto the boobs and bush, right?

Devilsfanatic · Post #408 by **Devilsfanatic** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:58 am

Dr_Chimera wrote:They CGI'd the chick's face onto the boobs and bush, right?

100%. It was rather poorly done.

jester · Post #409 by **jester** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:00 am

Apparently she was preggers at the time, so didn't really have a choice.

I thought it was a pretty good season all told when factored against how much the books dragged. My one critique is that I thought some episodes really struggled with having too many plot threads to deal with ... which, of course, is why Martin split the books (didn't save them).

PPJ · Post #410 by **PPJ** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:30 pm

Boltsfanatic wrote:
Dr_Chimera wrote:They CGI'd the chick's face onto the boobs and bush, right?

100%. It was rather poorly done.

It's one of those times it's better if you watch something on a crappy TV. Looked pretty good on the 10 year old 24" generic TV on watched it on.

Transplanted Caper · Post #411 by **Transplanted Caper** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:53 pm

Boltsfanatic wrote:
Transplanted Caper wrote:Finale ended as I expected it to with the Jon Snow scene.
Arya storyline went as I expected.
Didn't see the Sansa/Theon scene going down, but expect they're both fine and in a snowbank.
Not sure we'll much of Stannis, though they left it open ended

How could you not see that? Theon saves Jeyne Poole and Jeyne has just been replaced with Sansa.

I expected it to drag into next season, or given the departure from the books that Sansa would kill Ramsay.

Devilsfanatic · Post #412 by **Devilsfanatic** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:09 pm

Transplanted Caper wrote:
Boltsfanatic wrote:
Transplanted Caper wrote:Finale ended as I expected it to with the Jon Snow scene.
Arya storyline went as I expected.
Didn't see the Sansa/Theon scene going down, but expect they're both fine and in a snowbank.
Not sure we'll much of Stannis, though they left it open ended

How could you not see that? Theon saves Jeyne Poole and Jeyne has just been replaced with Sansa.

I expected it to drag into next season, or given the departure from the books that Sansa would kill Ramsay.

Fair enough. They're trying so hard to sell Jon Snow is dead to us.

jester · Post #413 by **jester** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:10 pm

Boltsfanatic wrote:Fair enough. They're trying so hard to sell Jon Snow is dead to us.

And good on 'em ... the book isn't out yet, so they don't want to provide a spoiler--even if his resurrection (one way or another) appears obvious. In fact, I think events in last night's episodes all but confirmed what will happen.

Shawnathan Horcoff · Post #414 by **Shawnathan Horcoff** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:43 pm

D'yers reckon Snow won't be back until season seven though? : (

Transplanted Caper · Post #415 by **Transplanted Caper** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:21 pm

edgar_dong wrote:D'yers reckon Snow won't be back until season seven though? : (

Given the show hasn't tackled any of the Greyjoy stuff, has a decent chunk of Arya's story in ADOD to tackle, presumably will kick off a Lannister/Dorne feud, and have more to tell about the North/Sansa they probably could leave The Wall/Jon on the shelf for a year and wait until Season 7 to bring him back (presuming Martin brings him back, though most assume he will).

Dr_Chimera · Post #416 by **Dr_Chimera** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:49 pm

Snow will be back in another incarnation in season 7. He will be played by Jack Burns.

jester · Post #417 by **jester** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:56 am

Transplanted Caper wrote:
edgar_dong wrote:D'yers reckon Snow won't be back until season seven though? : (

Given the show hasn't tackled any of the Greyjoy stuff, has a decent chunk of Arya's story in ADOD to tackle, presumably will kick off a Lannister/Dorne feud, and have more to tell about the North/Sansa they probably could leave The Wall/Jon on the shelf for a year and wait until Season 7 to bring him back (presuming Martin brings him back, though most assume he will).

They will not leave the wall, and White Walkers for a season. Granted, Bran will be back (and hopefully interesting), but Snow is too central to the ultimate end (in theory) to shelf like that.

vf · Post #418 by vf » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:17 pm

The show was starting to lose me around the same point the books did.

jester · Post #419 by **jester** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:19 pm

Yeah, they streamlined the crap out of the plot lines from the book and still had significant lulls early on when it just felt like a whole lot of nothing was happening.

PPJ · Post #420 by **PPJ** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:04 pm

Kind of sick of Castle Black. Wouldn't mind a break from that place.

Zardoz · Post #421 by **Zardoz** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:39 pm

Not a bad start to the season. Bit of a high note for the women in the series, which is nice considering all the rape and torture and shaming of a season ago.

Craig · Post #422 by **Craig** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:49 pm

One woman is being locked away for the rest of her days because her husband died.

Another is going through the whole religious shaming thing Cersei got last season.

Another seems like she's in for a daily blind beating.

I guess Sansa managed to not get wrecked for once, that's something.

senate · Post #423 by **senate** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:38 pm

Craig wrote:Another seems like she's in for a daily blind beating.

If you know a better way to train a child to become Daredevil, I'd like to hear it.

Dr_Chimera · Post #424 by **Dr_Chimera** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:30 pm

Craig wrote:One woman is being locked away for the rest of her days because her husband died.

Another is going through the whole religious shaming thing Cersei got last season.

Another seems like she's in for a daily blind beating.

I guess Sansa managed to not get wrecked for once, that's something.

Fucking feminists are taking over the tv.

Zardoz · Post #425 by **Zardoz** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:13 pm

Ya, but nobody got raped... So there's that.

Craig · Post #426 by **Craig** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:19 pm

No, but at least two guys threatened it. She got off on a technicality.

WTF · Post #427 by **WTF** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:40 pm

Zardoz wrote:Ya, but nobody got raped... So there's that.

Trystane, Areo, and Doran were all penetrated without their consent.

Shawnathan Horcoff · Post #428 by **Shawnathan Horcoff** » Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:11 am

Scathing critique of S06E01 of Throne's Games by Dave Chase.

Shawnathan Horcoff · Post #429 by **Shawnathan Horcoff** » Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:14 am

Matt Wiener chimes in as well. :stare:

Shawnathan Horcoff · Post #430 by **Shawnathan Horcoff** » Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:16 am

Have you fellas ever gathered 'round the fire and really thought about how terrible Game of Thrones is as a television serial?

Shawnathan Horcoff · Post #431 by **Shawnathan Horcoff** » Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:20 am

I only mean "terrible" relative to the masterworks of this century.

Dr_Chimera · Post #432 by **Dr_Chimera** » Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:22 am

Now that Dexter is gone, we all need a new piece of shit to bring us together.

Zardoz · Post #433 by **Zardoz** » Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:50 pm

Nashville is heating up again. Many strong but flawed women figures in that show, and no rape or incest!

Shawnathan Horcoff · Post #434 by **Shawnathan Horcoff** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:53 pm

Shawnathan Horcoff · Post #435 by **Shawnathan Horcoff** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:17 pm

I can't believe people can actually get through the books of this dull trash.

Shawnathan Horcoff · Post #436 by **Shawnathan Horcoff** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:20 pm

This Hound scene is killing it though.

Dr_Chimera · Post #437 by **Dr_Chimera** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:35 pm

This is, quite simply put, good content.

Dr_Chimera · Post #438 by **Dr_Chimera** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:39 pm

vonbonds · Post #439 by **vonbonds** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:32 pm

I find her so attractive...yummmmmm

Shawnathan Horcoff · Post #440 by **Shawnathan Horcoff** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:36 pm

Shawnathan Horcoff · Post #441 by **Shawnathan Horcoff** » Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:14 pm

Will soon have a glorious HD version, fellas:

Gigantic Spoiler

senate · Post #442 by **senate** » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:18 pm

Dr_Chimera · Post #443 by **Dr_Chimera** » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:29 pm

Retardé S · Post #444 by **Retardé S** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:07 pm

Just finished this bullshit, onto Stranger Things so I'm not completely socially incompetent.

MP · Post #445 by MP » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:25 am

I had the entire Big Little Lies plot figured out halfway through the second episode. I'm guessing you like the portrayal of the school dynamic, but otherwise it was trivial story with Nicole Kidman getting repeatedly beaten and screwed.

Retardé S · Post #446 by **Retardé S** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:19 pm

Shawnathan Horcoff · Post #447 by **Shawnathan Horcoff** » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:07 am

Give me that Sally Draper/Arya Stark tribfest.

Retardé S · Post #448 by **Retardé S** » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:52 pm

Arya Stark again

Shawnathan Horcoff · Post #449 by **Shawnathan Horcoff** » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:20 pm

I never cared about the throne, so it’s a wrap for me.

Dr_Chimera · Post #450 by **Dr_Chimera** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:28 am

Tactically speaking, I think it makes a lot of sense to take both of your dragons on a long joy ride during a battle rather than, I don't know, setting everyone on fire.

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