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Post #101 by Slick Nick » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:04 am

I will believe everything is well when we have solid reports from Ankara.
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Post #102 by Slick Nick » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:14 am

From RT

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EU hopes to keep Ankara as a “key partner” following a coup attempt in Turkey, said European Council President Donald Tusk, adding that these events will have a significant impact on the region.

“A military coup has no place in Turkey. Disputes cannot be solved with guns. Events continue to unfold, and the situation is still far from stabilization,” Tusk said. “The key question is what Turkey will come out of this crisis. Consequences will be crucial for the region and for the relations with the EU. Our hope is to keep Turkey as a key partner in all dimensions.”

04:58 GMT
A faction of pro-coup soldiers are still fighting fiercely against those who oppose them, Reuters cited Turkish military General Staff as saying in a statement. The soldiers are referring to themselves as the Peace at Home Movement and urging people to stay inside their homes for safety.

Meanwhile, witnesses cited by Reuters said there were clashes between anti-coup protesters and the soldiers surrendering at Istanbul’s Bosphorus Bridge after protesters attacked them.

04:36 GMT
US-based Islamic preacher Fethullah Gulen, who has been accused by President Erdogan of orchestrating the coup attempt in Turkey, has issued a statement condemning the coup in the strongest terms.

04:20 GMT
A total of 336 people have been detained across the country following the coup attempt in Turkey, the country’s Justice Minister Bekir Bozdag said. Meanwhile, Haberturk reported that over 600 people have been detained in Istanbul alone.
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Post #103 by Craig » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:30 am

So they fired 2700 judges in response to a failed military coup. Is that just opportunism?
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Post #104 by vonbonds » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:33 am

Of course. Erdogan has been taking control of that country like a good little democratically elected dictator.
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Post #105 by PredsFan77 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:16 am

looks like the turks are going to fuck with our airbase. lol.
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Post #106 by shredz » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:16 pm

Aris DM'd me some beheaded Turkish soldiers. Jesus Lord help us all.

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Post #108 by chicpea » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:39 pm

On what legal grounds would the US have to extradite Gulen?
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Post #109 by chicpea » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:44 pm

Pennywise wrote:Aris DM'd me some beheaded Turkish soldiers. Jesus Lord help us all.

Pred stop blowing up my mentions.


De-headings? Wtf? One? Two? Many? Is this common?
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Post #110 by shredz » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:50 pm

chiclet wrote:
Pennywise wrote:Aris DM'd me some beheaded Turkish soldiers. Jesus Lord help us all.

Pred stop blowing up my mentions.


De-headings? Wtf? One? Two? Many? Is this common?


Pro Erdogan citizens slit throats of a few soldiers. Whats sad is that they likely had no idea what was going on. Young conscripts following orders.
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Post #111 by chicpea » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:56 pm

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chiclet wrote:
Pennywise wrote:Aris DM'd me some beheaded Turkish soldiers. Jesus Lord help us all.

Pred stop blowing up my mentions.


De-headings? Wtf? One? Two? Many? Is this common?


Pro Erdogan citizens slit throats of a few soldiers. Whats sad is that they likely had no idea what was going on. Young conscripts following orders.


Yes. For the most part. Those kids taking over the newsrooms - reports had it they were shaking in their boots and saying "just following orders."

Not hard seeing senior (even minorly senior) officers just telling them do it. Sad, sad, sad.
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Post #112 by shredz » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:11 pm

Erdogan playing with us now.

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Post #114 by shredz » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:24 pm

chiclet wrote:On what legal grounds would the US have to extradite Gulen?


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Post #115 by shredz » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:35 pm

Erdoğan speaks live, calls U.S to hand over Fethullah Gulen if U.S is strategic ally - @CNNTURK_ENG
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Post #116 by chicpea » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:53 pm

No, I realise what Kerry has said. I'm wondering on what grounds can he do so. Is there a treaty in place (assuming yes). Has he been charged (yes, I believe he's been tried in absentia). Does US recognize court decisions in Turkey (I'm assuming vague). If yes, were any of the court decisions surrounding Gulen made by judges who have since been arrested? (likely no). I need some concrete steps here.
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Post #117 by PredsFan77 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:04 pm

Lets send them trump instead
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Post #118 by PredsFan77 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:18 pm

It'd be like surprise cockfags he's your problem now
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Post #119 by chicpea » Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:53 pm

Ah ha ha. Discretionary power is the kicker. Too funny.
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Post #120 by chicpea » Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:53 pm

But thank you for the information.
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Post #121 by clawfirst » Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:19 pm

Also rumours many in the military thought it was a drill... regardless a fucking mess
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Post #122 by PredsFan77 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:07 pm

Turks think USA helped refuel jets
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Post #123 by Craig » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:38 pm

Internet is awash with rumors this was all a false flag operation, which while seeming unlikely is exactly the sort of thing you would probably need to pull if you wanted to overcome secularism in Turkey.

I wonder how much clout the military still has after this. Like if Ergodan tries to purge their senior leadership and replace then with cronies, can the army still resist him? My feeling UB the past has always been that much like in Egypt, democracy in Turkey exists only so long as the military wishes it. Which for my western ass and it's ideals, is probably a good thing.
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Post #124 by clawfirst » Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:18 pm

Yeah it's all too convenient to not smell bad.
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Post #125 by AD » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:17 am

Inhumane.
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Post #126 by AD » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:10 am

I have family in Istanbul.
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Post #127 by AD » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:20 am

No way! Everybody knows that affluent Americanized Oxford educated atheist engineering businessmen are some of the staunchest AKP backers!

Long life to Erdogan!
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Post #128 by AD » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:20 am

:paranoid:
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Post #129 by PredsFan77 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:33 am

best time to go is now!
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Post #130 by chicpea » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:40 am

Dog wrote:In other news, I'm running out of places to visit. Turkey, Zimbabwe (have a buddy there) and France were actually top of the list for next year.

Why won't anyone think of the tourists??!


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Post #131 by Boring Choice #2 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:08 pm

Dog wrote:In other news, I'm running out of places to visit. Turkey, Zimbabwe (have a buddy there) and France were actually top of the list for next year.

Why won't anyone think of the tourists??!



New Zealand? Australia?

You can go to New Zealand and scope out businesses for bonbons and me to run.
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Post #132 by Boring Choice #2 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:11 pm

Dog wrote:That or Germany, me thinks.


By Germany, are you referring to the new Turkish Republic in the middle of Europe?
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Post #133 by AD » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:12 pm

Dog wrote:That or Germany, me thinks.


Nothing bad ever happens in Germany. I'm sure it'll be super stable in the next few years.

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Post #134 by AD » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:22 pm

My wife and I have visited Tunisia (late 2010) Turkey 2013), France (2014) and England (2016) together. We've left each place reeling.
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Post #135 by Boring Choice #2 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:23 pm

I was there when the German capital was just coming into its own and was mostly under construction. I enjoyed Munich, but was only ever there briefly and mostly to drink and eat.

Frankfurt is a place to work and mostly not worth visiting.

There are a bunch of cities that are worth a day trip to see the architecture.

I spent most of my time seeing these places in the evening after a full day of work, so I was never really concerned with touristy type places. I mostly wanted a place to eat and drink, and then walked around to look at the city centre.
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Post #136 by AD » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:27 pm

My wife and I found Tunisians to be among the nicest people.

But of course we're not assholes like you and your wife.
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Post #137 by Boring Choice #2 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:31 pm

I really enjoyed Tunisia as well. I went over a long weekend (4 or 5 days) when I was living in Vienna. I didn't care for haggling in the market, but the place, people, and food were all good.
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Post #138 by Boring Choice #2 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:32 pm

AD wrote:My wife and I found Tunisians to be among the nicest people.

But of course we're not assholes like you and your wife.


He probably expected a "massage" from the inn keeper's wife.
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Post #140 by chicpea » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:42 pm

Pennywise wrote:https://twitter.com/ReutersWorld/status/754722687541469184



"Why they didn't fire is a mystery," he said.


A mystery, yes. Maybe because......they thought it was only a drill.
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Post #141 by Slick Nick » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:51 pm

Dog wrote:In other news, I'm running out of places to visit. Turkey, Zimbabwe (have a buddy there) and France were actually top of the list for next year.

Why won't anyone think of the tourists??!


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Post #142 by vonbonds » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:33 pm

Brown Socks wrote:
Dog wrote:In other news, I'm running out of places to visit. Turkey, Zimbabwe (have a buddy there) and France were actually top of the list for next year.

Why won't anyone think of the tourists??!



New Zealand? Australia?

You can go to New Zealand and scope out businesses for bonbons and me to run.

:banana:
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Post #143 by AD » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:46 pm

AD wrote:
Dog wrote:That or Germany, me thinks.


Nothing bad ever happens in Germany. I'm sure it'll be super stable in the next few years.

:paranoid:


Now this post just looks suspicious..

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Post #144 by Boring Choice #2 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:51 pm

I think it was pretty obvious that the coup in Turkey was going to spill over to relations between the Turkish population and the rest of the German population.

This is one of the few things you've said that really wasn't all that suspicious.
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Post #145 by AD » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:52 pm

Good!
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Post #146 by Boring Choice #2 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:54 pm

Dog wrote:Je was afghan, not turkish. Apparently.


[eb] No difference, really [/eb]
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Post #147 by AD » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:56 pm

Dog wrote:Nice cover up, nanners.


Thank you!

Edit: I mean... I don't know what you're talking about!
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Post #148 by Slick Nick » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:09 pm

Some good ole tinfoil talk.

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Post #149 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:16 pm


1577 University deans and rectors (were) ordered to resign by Turkey’s High Education Board, according to state broadcaster TRT. Mr. Erdogan clashed with academics earlier this year when more than 1,000 of them signed a petition criticizing the government’s handling of the long-running battle with Kurdish separatists
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Post #150 by Germz » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:40 pm

Fine world these days. Everywhere you look, heels are digging in.

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