Miss Callaneous' Senatorial Grabuge 2

[MP]

Hammond has torn his labia. Out for the rest of the season.

[mayoradamwest]

I thought he was already gone.

[MP]

Neil has a broken finger after shaking Dorien's hand. Gone a week.

[Germz]

He's 31 years old, but Jeff Glass finally got to the NHL. To sit on the bench, anyway.

http://www.tsn.ca/hawks-recall-g-glass- ... s-1.686997

[senate]

Boucher says that Turris' hand injury may keep him out for the entire three game road trip.

[King Clancy]

Probably for the best, so he gets back to 100%. Not like we're facing good teams anyway.

[MP]

Do we even want 1st in the Atlantic to meet the Rangers or are we better off in 2nd to face the Bruins? I'm thinking the latter...

Also who gets home ice, if the wild card has more points than the 1st place team?

[Shawnathan Horcoff]

Do we even want 1st in the Atlantic to meet the Rangers or are we better off in 2nd to face the Bruins? I'm thinking the latter...

Also who gets home ice, if the wild card has more points than the 1st place team?

Home ice is based on the wild card standings until the third round when it is suddenly based on points alone. : )

[TGR]

Do we even want 1st in the Atlantic to meet the Rangers or are we better off in 2nd to face the Bruins? I'm thinking the latter...

Also who gets home ice, if the wild card has more points than the 1st place team?

Home ice is based on the wild card standings until the third round when it is suddenly based on points alone. : )

You won't have to worry about that.

[senate]

According to Bob McKenzie, Colin White and the Senators are far apart on a deal. The problem is that the Senators want White to sign an Amateur Try Out contract, play the rest of the season in Bingo, and then sign a ELC in the offseason.

[Ricard_Persson]

I wouldn't even sign that deal.


Weight room trainer Randy Lee flexing his Ass GM muscle.

[mayoradamwest]

You really can't just give a kid a roster spot so you ensure he doesn't sign with someone else in two years. Team is fighting for both first and a playoff spot still, sends the wrong message to team if you emphasizing long term to the team itself.

I also understand hey he wouldn't sign it. I'm sure he will be worth something if they do have to do a trade and sign. But I bet you this will all blow over.

[senate]

Jesus Christ, White actually signed the ATO. He's going to Bingo.

[Skrymir]

Could still sign an ELC before the end of the season

[MP]

MacArthur wants another crack at this season...

[FH2002]

He hasn’t played in two years so he’d at least be as good as Bobby Ryan.

[The Bytown Boozer]

Colin White and Binghamton is a match made in heaven if you sit down & think about it for half a second. I'vw followed this prospect, and quite frankly, I was surprised he is, in fact, not from Watertown.

Mr White could also be a massive star in Belleville, depending on how fast that franchise move happens. I guess what I'm trying to say is that this is a guy that will do great kicking the shit out of Bridgeport on a Tuesday night. He's an American built to tear shit up in the AHL. Personally, I'd let him do that until the Sens roster reassessment comes during play-off time. I'd give him a chance because I've often seen what rookies can do in a game 3 setting, but he should by no means be guaranteed a roster spot in this surprisingly packed line-up.

[senate]

Peter O'Leary, the former Chief Marketing Officer for the Senators, has filed a lawsuit against the Senators and Melnyk for wrongful dismissal. According to the complaint, the lower attendance this season has led to a 10% budget cut to all departments, reduced net pay, late bonus payments, and staff reductions - including the janitors which meant that the “professional staff were required to clean offices and empty garbage bins.”

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/former-ottawa-senators-executive-sues-melnyk-team-for-1-55m-alleges-discord-behind-the-scenes

So, not only do the Senators have the smallest hockey operations staff in the NHl and they can't even afford to hire enough janitors. Things are going great for franchise.

[mayoradamwest]

That sounds like a healthy organization in action.

Also - hogburg signs deal, off to bingo

[FH2002]

Peter O'Leary, the former Chief Marketing Officer for the Senators, has filed a lawsuit against the Senators and Melnyk for wrongful dismissal. According to the complaint, the lower attendance this season has led to a 10% budget cut to all departments, reduced net pay, late bonus payments, and staff reductions - including the janitors which meant that the “professional staff were required to clean offices and empty garbage bins.”

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/former-ottawa-senators-executive-sues-melnyk-team-for-1-55m-alleges-discord-behind-the-scenes

So, not only do the Senators have the smallest hockey operations staff in the NHl and they can't even afford to hire enough janitors. Things are going great for franchise.

I know someone who is (or was very recently) suing the Senators for unpaid salary.

[TGR]

Peter O'Leary, the former Chief Marketing Officer for the Senators, has filed a lawsuit against the Senators and Melnyk for wrongful dismissal. According to the complaint, the lower attendance this season has led to a 10% budget cut to all departments, reduced net pay, late bonus payments, and staff reductions - including the janitors which meant that the “professional staff were required to clean offices and empty garbage bins.”

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/former-ottawa-senators-executive-sues-melnyk-team-for-1-55m-alleges-discord-behind-the-scenes

So, not only do the Senators have the smallest hockey operations staff in the NHl and they can't even afford to hire enough janitors. Things are going great for franchise.

I know someone who is (or was very recently) suing the Senators for unpaid salary.

Heh. I didn't think Senators staff were also affected by the Phoenix pay system.

[senate]

Colin White has signed a 3 year ELC. According to Brent Wallace, he will join the team in Detroit.

Also, because he now has a professional contract and he wasn't on the Bingo roster before the AHL trade deadline, he can no longer play in Bingo this season. It's games for Ottawa or nothing.

[FH2002]

Can he play defense?

[TGR]

Can he score goals?

[mayoradamwest]

Looks like Dzingle's message of patience paid off for white.

[senate]

Boucher says no Ceci, Smith, or Methot for the rest of the regular season and no Karlsson tonight.

[TGR]

Well if the Sens can solidify a playoff spot without those guys, getting them back for the playoffs would be a big boost (hopefully).

[senate]

Karlsson has made a surprise appearance at the Joe Louis Arena. He will play tonight.

[senate]

Well, fuck.

[MP]

So we need a fluke goal to hang in for 1-0 win. No problem.

[MP]

Marchand is out as well, suspended for 2.

[The Bytown Boozer]

Which one of you beautiful mens did this?

[MP]

Zibanejad with the OT winner. I think Brassard is better right now, but in the long run we're gonna lose that trade.

[The Bytown Boozer]

Zibanejad with the OT winner. I think Brassard is better right now, but in the long run we're gonna lose that trade.

The Artist Formerly Know as Zib-train always showed up for those Montreal games. For that I wish him well.

Brassard is a fine forward and an asset in Ottawa's dynamic offense, but that trade was a giant L from the day it happened, and we all knew it. The reaction on this very forum was lukewarm at best. The common parlance in the Sens Nerd·O·Sphere™ is that Mika Zibanejad is a supple and nubile 24 year-old, while Derrick Brassard is as old as the pyramids.

In the end it's all bullshit, as they are both marginal top 6 forwards. We lost five years in the career of a perpetual second liner. Boo-fucking-hoo.

Honestly, if it gets that bad we can probably bring back my man Milan Michalek.

[The Bytown Boozer]

What really concerns me is how Stone and Pageau are both invisible right now. Burrows too. To me, those are the guys that need to step up.

I'd be interested to see what a guy like Wingels could do, were he to be substituted into Viktor Stalberg's spot on the roster right now. I don't know. Might be interesting.

Can Chris "Iron Hands" Kelly still play?

[Ricard_Persson]

I don't think you can take out Vic Stalberg. I think he's been pretty good. High speed, high energy up that right side as it seems to be the teams mandate to chisel pucks around the slow Boston D on the left side and skate. For that Stalberg has been very good.

I too do like Tom Wingels and he edge that he brings. This team really is too deep, but they'll probably have an injured forward next round. Pyatt is concussed as was obvious the second he got hit in Game 5. So that will free up a spot.

I may play White believe it or not over Kelly. It's a toss up. Kelly is a good man, but long term I may feed White some valuable experience on a fourth line role that will pay off next October.

Hard to say, don't want to rock the boat too much on a rookie for veteran move.

[Ricard_Persson]

I don't think you can take out Vic Stalberg. I think he's been pretty good. High speed, high energy up that right side as it seems to be the teams mandate to chisel pucks around the slow Boston D on the right side boards and skate for it. For that Stalberg has been very good.

I too do like Tom Wingels and the edge that he brings. This team really is too deep, but they'll probably have an injured forward next round. Pyatt is concussed as was obvious the second he got hit in Game 5. So that will free up a spot.

I may play White believe it or not over Kelly. It's a toss up. Kelly is a good man, but long term I may feed White some valuable experience on a fourth line role that will pay off next October.

Hard to say, don't want to rock the boat too much on a rookie for veteran move.

[Murphy]

I don't think you can take out Vic Stalberg. I think he's been pretty good. High speed, high energy up that right side as it seems to be the teams mandate to chisel pucks around the slow Boston D on the left side and skate. For that Stalberg has been very good.

I too do like Tom Wingels and he edge that he brings. This team really is too deep, but they'll probably have an injured forward next round. Pyatt is concussed as was obvious the second he got hit in Game 5. So that will free up a spot.

I may play White believe it or not over Kelly. It's a toss up. Kelly is a good man, but long term I may feed White some valuable experience on a fourth line role that will pay off next October.

Hard to say, don't want to rock the boat too much on a rookie for veteran move.

I would play White over Kelly, no question.

I'd love to Ceci shot into outerspace. Such a frustrating player to watch.

[The Bytown Boozer]

I say it's high time the Sens dress Jim O'Brien.

[The Bytown Boozer]

What really concerns me is how Stone and Pageau are both invisible right now. Burrows too. To me, those are the guys that need to step up.

[The Bytown Boozer]

People often make jokes about Daniel Alfredsson's Jofa helmet that he wore early on in his career, but the real standout in this picture, at least to me, are those radically 90's Jofa gloves. Wow, that's a design that did not age well at all.

[ColinM]

Kind of Sens news since this is about Ben Bishop:

http://www.tsn.ca/stars-sign-g-bishop-t ... l-1.750023

So does this give us a sense of what replacing Craig Anderson will be like?

[The Bytown Boozer]

Which one of you magnificent bastards did this?

[mayoradamwest]

Ottawa's next president of marketing

[senate]

Of course Genie said it on Toronto radio too:



Have the Sens advertised at all this summer? I never heard anything on the radio or saw anything on TV, in the Citizen, or on billboards.

[Ricard_Persson]

Word of mouth advertising works for many small businesses.

[BlackRedGold]

Of course Genie said it on Toronto radio too:



Have the Sens advertised at all this summer? I never heard anything on the radio or saw anything on TV, in the Citizen, or on billboards.

I think Melnyk went on Toronto radio a few times. Does that count?

[senate]

Some fun stuff from tonight for for those that missed it:

Mckenzie was on the TSN1200 pregame and he said that he doesn't expect Turris to resign with the Senators. Mckenzie had a line about Melnyk not wanting to commit to 6-7 years, but I can't tell if he meant Melnyk personally or if he was using Melnyk's name as synonym for the Senators management.



During the intermission, Dredger agreed with Mckenzie and said he expects Turris to be traded this season. Dredger also agreed with Garrioch's analysis that Karlsson would get +$11 million a season, but disagreed with Karlsson resigning in Ottawa because it isn't enough of a Stanley Cup contender.

[mayoradamwest]

I hate how they treat this stuff when it comes to Ottawa.
It's game one and they should panick about turris and trade him? It's just lazy. Of course it's going to be a difficult negotiation, but how many of these situations truly result in the player walking for nothing?

Not saying there's no risk of losing him, but the perception is already they're going to lose Turris and then Karlsson? No, that's stupid. The hot take is that Ottawa is cheap and therefore all this shitty stuff is going to happen?

What examples have we actually seen? Alfie left, but that was a unique situation. Spezza was traded and that was for the best.

Meh. These stories play well in Toronto and Montreal, but they don't make sense. I know there's a lot of internal silliness, but they're talking about franchise killing moves (pissing off Karlsson and seeing him walk.)

I guess the consensus is last year's run shouldnt have happened and everything is the worst possible outcome. I can get canadian media hyping the leafs as that's where they get the the money, but stopping to think about hints for a second might be an idea.

(Ok, I have never liked Darren Dreger.)

[mayoradamwest]

Wouldn't be so bad if Ottawa fans didn't buy into interview all the time. I know we joke about the business aide of things, but to me that perception that everything's is a constant clusterfuck is both unrealistic and in need of addressing by the team