Canadian Politics: treading water until the next election

[akiberg]

ok

[Boring Choice #2]

The Fraser Institute has a history of ignoring facts and data which do not support its agenda.

I went to a symposium that they held once, for which they asked the people there to form working groups and discuss topics related to the broader topic at hand. The group of people who I was with were split into different groups and all had similar experiences in that the group came to a consensus on the specific topic that they were assigned and make a small summary which would be incorporated into a larger report. The Fraser Institute employee heading each group ignored the group's conclusions in the summary despite strenuous disagreements from the majority of group members and when the groups were asked to discuss their conclusions, the group leaders provided only the summary supporting their agenda. When several members of the symposium tried to bring up their objections, the symposium leaders shut down discussions and thanked everyone for their time. The final report of course only included the viewpoints of the leaders and ignored any dissenting opinions.

I will never trust anything put out by that organization even if I agree with the conclusions.

I agree with Boozer. Fuck the Fraser Institute.

[AD]

Fuck the Fraser Institute.

That's a whole lot of white dick. I didn't know you had it in you. Kudos.

[mcphee]

The Fraser Institute has a history of ignoring facts and data which do not support its agenda.

I went to a symposium that they held once, for which they asked the people there to form working groups and discuss topics related to the broader topic at hand. The group of people who I was with were split into different groups and all had similar experiences in that the group came to a consensus on the specific topic that they were assigned and make a small summary which would be incorporated into a larger report. The Fraser Institute employee heading each group ignored the group's conclusions in the summary despite strenuous disagreements from the majority of group members and when the groups were asked to discuss their conclusions, the group leaders provided only the summary supporting their agenda. When several members of the symposium tried to bring up their objections, the symposium leaders shut down discussions and thanked everyone for their time. The final report of course only included the viewpoints of the leaders and ignored any dissenting opinions.

I will never trust anything put out by that organization even if I agree with the conclusions.

I agree with Boozer. Fuck the Fraser Institute.

I've never knowingly went to a symposium. I think it's the symposium organizer's loss, I'd be very useful.

[chicpea]

Last I checked the average funding for First Nations schools is well below the Canadian average.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article ... ing-canada

Anyone who quotes the Fraser Institute rankings in a discussion about First Nations schools is clearly nowhere near qualified to contribute any longer to this conversation - or to any other conversation for that matter.

What a fuckwit.


edit: I see I'm a little late to this party.

[Craig]

Aki is special. He also doesn't approve of RRSPs or Habeas Corpus.

[clawfirst]

[akiberg]

Aki is special. He also doesn't approve of RRSPs or Habeus Corpus.

I now think RRSP's are the very best you could ever do.

[akiberg]

Last I checked the average funding for First Nations schools is well below the Canadian average.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article ... ing-canada

Anyone who quotes the Fraser Institute rankings in a discussion about First Nations schools is clearly nowhere near qualified to contribute any longer to this conversation - or to any other conversation for that matter.

What a fuckwit.


edit: I see I'm a little late to this party.

meow.

[chicpea]

He also doesn't approve of RRSPs or Habeus Corpus.

susfs. Good lord. Dare I ask? No, I dare not.

[Craig]

I asked. It had something to do with buying your uncle's business in your 50s.

The other thing is about terrorists. He doesn't like giving them rights.

[Dr_Chimera]

Recent news release about Justin Trudeau's Spotify list truly grinds my gears.

[The Bytown Boozer]

Rarely has the essence of public figure been captured in such an accurate light.

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2017/07/justin-trudeau-suffers-third-degree-burns-failed-attempt-jump-campfire/

[Shawnathan Horcoff]

OPINION: Trudeau's challenge will be turning foreign fanfare into actual influence
...
Mired in scandal, Donald Trump has ceded the position of leader of the free world. All available signs suggest Justin Trudeau is gunning for the position

ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Lincoln Anthony Blades is a freelance journalist, international political pundit and author of Teen Vogue's #DoBetter column.

[Zardoz]

Justin Trudeau: Leader of the Free World

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These truly are the worst of times.

[WTF]

Justin Trudeau: Leader of the Free World

aki's going to an hero himself if that ever happens.

[Shawnathan Horcoff]

Governor General breaches royal protocol by touching Queen to avoid her stumbling on 'slippy' carpet

God, kill the queen.

[Shawnathan Horcoff]

I am sorry to do this to you, fellas, but have a gander at this:

Trudeau's silence on Payette's expunged assault charge shows double standard: Robyn Urback

I cannae even bring myself to copy never mind paste the rest of the text.

[Boring Choice #2]

what happened to the days when political leaders could assault people in public and be lauded for it instead of being a topic of gossip and innuendo?

[The Bytown Boozer]

:jpeg_of_jfk_killing_a_hooker:

[RTWAP]

Interesting article from 15 months ago about differences between Canada and the U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/opinion/f-h-buc ... bb846ac5ac

[chicpea]

Rough week for my buddy, Spaxxra.

[chicpea]

Later in the day....

Faith Goldy goes on a daily stormer podcast and gets fired by spazzra, who releases his own video (not the one he also released today about him being blackmailed by british gays...) :

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/pol ... 9bd870f1f1

[chicpea]

I realize most of you have probably included this in your weekend brunchly readings, but for posterity's sake, here is Richard Warnica's long-form piece on Ezra, which is quite something.

http://nationalpost.com/features/inside ... ebel-media

[The Bytown Boozer]

If elected as Leader of the Rhinoceros Party of Canada, I promised to:

• Enact legislation recognizing Canada's new national animal: the cheese curd
  
• Force a de-merger of the Conservative Party of Canada
  
• Promote higher education by building taller schools
  
• Appoint Senate seats according to proportional representation
  
• Abolish the Monarchy but retain the Governor General
  
• Make the AFN Leader de facto Governor General
  
• Give the Governor General a cool Davy Crockett hat
  
• Legalize all drugs
  
• Tax religion
  
• Ban Coors Light and ScotiaBank
  
• Enact a $7.8 million individual salary cap, much like after the NHL lockout in 2005
  
• Allow every Canadian to vote in the 2020 U.S. Election
  
• Trade P.E.I. for Delaware
  
• Change national anthem to a bunch of Inuit throat singing
  
• A Giant Tiger™ fidget spinner for every Canadian Citizen
  

Plz donate

http://www.hockeybroads.com/viewtopic.php?f=75&p=3288483#p3288483

[MP]

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/ottawa/university-of-ottawa-frosh-naloxone-1.4267447

I'm reading this and thinking, are opioid use/overdoses a common thing in university these days?! Or just a U of O thing?

Geez, what happen to beer and the occassion joint?

[The Bytown Boozer]

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/ottawa/university-of-ottawa-frosh-naloxone-1.4267447

I'm reading this and thinking, are opioid use/overdoses a common thing in university these days?! Or just a U of O thing?

Geez, what happen to beer and the occassion joint?

It's coke & MDMA now.

[Shawnathan Horcoff]

[Walrus]

Our boy Pierre P., voted as #1 douchiest MP back in 2014, is now our great nation's Shadow Minister for Finance.

The full top 10: viewtopic.php?f=120&t=37116&p=2703292

1. Pierre Poilievre
2. Rob Anders
3. Paul Calandra
4. Tony Clement
5. Julian Fantino
6. Dean Del Mastro
7. Chris Alexander
8. Stephen Harper
9. Peter Van Loan
10. Peter McKay

2015 election survivors are in bold.

[AD]

I still can't believe you lot downvoted Chris A to 7th.

[Shawnathan Horcoff]

Pier--

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[senate]

[mayoradamwest]

You have to realize, Conrad grew up constantly hearing people say they "...hated the Blacks" and now that he's older people have just started using his first name.

[The Bytown Boozer]

If that vacuous idiot Jagmeet Singh gets elected leader of the NDP, then my usually reliable vote is entirely up for grabs.

[senate]

The NDP exists to lead the brown people, not to be led by them. Only a wealthy, white, career graduate student like Niki Ashton is capable of being the true voice of both Canada's ethnic minorities and its working class.

[AD]

If that vacuous idiot Jagmeet Singh gets elected leader of the NDP, then my usually reliable vote is entirely up for grabs.

Trudeau! Trudeau! Trudeau!

[MP]

If that vacuous idiot Jagmeet Singh gets elected leader of the NDP, then my usually reliable vote is entirely up for grabs.

Do you keep said vote somewhere in your pants? If not, I'm not interested.

[Germz]

Electing a friendly leader is the worst thing the NDP could do right now IMO. Mulcair should have been allowed to stay on, but failing that, someone similarly angry and sharp-tongued is necessary. Progressives sick of Trudeau won't need more good vibes, they will need someone fierce to cut through his bullshit.

[The Bytown Boozer]

Also, I don't think there is a viable political space left of Trudeau right now.

[The Bytown Boozer]

The NDP exists to lead the brown people, not to be led by them. Only a wealthy, white, career graduate student like Niki Ashton is capable of being the true voice of both Canada's ethnic minorities and its working class.

I'm sure Jagmeet Singh is a nice man, but he does seem more comfortable spouting platitudes than he does outlining workable socialist policies. I said the exact same thing about Trudeau. (replacing the word 'socialist' with 'liberal' in his case, obviously)

[AD]

Also, I don't think there is a viable political space left of Trudeau right now.

He said "viable".

[AD]

How long has it been dog? We must do lunch!

[Dr_Chimera]

Electing a friendly leader is the worst thing the NDP could do right now IMO. Mulcair should have been allowed to stay on, but failing that, someone similarly angry and sharp-tongued is necessary. Progressives sick of Trudeau won't need more good vibes, they will need someone fierce to cut through his bullshit.

Similarly angry to Mulcair? Ugh, Mulcair is completely charmless.

Not convinced "angry" works with Canadians. Let's see what Singh can do.

[Germz]

This is a throwaway NDP leader.

The worst case scenario would be to ditch their next leader as quickly as they did Mulcair. No NDP leader is ever a hit in the first election. Or second, for that matter.

If the NDP has any sense at all, they will find someone with promise and stick with that person for a minimum of three elections. That's a big part of the recipe for partial success shared by Broadbent and Layton.

If that's Singh, I hope he still fits the bill in 2023 and 2027, because that's when we're really going to need him.

[AD]

The NDP should pick someone who can outlast Trudeau (not necessarily try to beat him next election). Just a good stable, likeable, smart showing over the next 5-6 years until Trudeau/Liberals get stale.

At that time, both the conservatives and the NDP will gnaw away at the Liberal support. Sheer (Scheer? Cheer? Sheare?) is a complete dud, the cons will surely have another leader in 3-5 years (if they don't they're morons).

[MP]

The NDP should pick someone who can outlast Trudeau (not necessarily try to beat him next election). Just a good stable, likeable, smart showing over the next 5-6 years until Trudeau/Liberals get stale.

At that time, both the conservatives and the NDP will gnaw away at the Liberal support. Sheer (Scheer? Cheer? Sheare?) is a complete dud, the cons will surely have another leader in 3-5 years (if they don't they're morons).

[The Bytown Boozer]

Andrew Scheer is a bashful vagina, while Trudeau and Singh are both utter bellends.

Liz May seems like a pretty qualified public servant compared to all this. I will probably vote Green unless it's Ashton or Angus on the orange side. I am not interested in this self-examining, post-Trudeau NDP at all. The NDP should keep moving left like it always has.

If anything right now, the NDP should see the writing on the wall and reach out to its socialist/feminist/environmentalist wings. This is not the time to elect some fucking Andrea Horwath stand-in, who longs for a means-tested Old Age Security program.

[The Bytown Boozer]

BTW, the name of this thread should be 'Andrew Scheer is a Bashful Vagina'.