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Post #101 by TittiesNBeer » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:20 pm

We went to Caldeira Vahla today. In all the vacations I've ever been on this is the prettiest spot.

It's a grotto in the middle of this gully with a waterfall and then you can swim in the grotto. The one pool is like 28 degrees all the time and then the other is a 38 degrees and like a hot tub. It's all surrounded by ferns and other greenery. Just unbelievable.
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Post #102 by TittiesNBeer » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:09 pm

Dog wrote:Sete cidades and lagoa do fogo are the coolest views. The drive up to furnas and nordeste (more mountainous and wild up north) is great too. The natural "pool" in villa franca (i think) is nice too. Nice island to drive around/do day trips. Restaurants are very meh -fresh fish, but very repetitive and basic prep, especially on side dishes.


Spent a couple days in ponta delgada.

Restaurants are cheap but yeah very meh. Fish is great but the side dish is usually just potatoes and rice and a garden salad.

Going to furnas tomorrow
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Post #103 by Craig » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:18 pm

Furnas was boring.

There were only like two or three restaurants in Ponta Delgada that weren't boring. A Tasca I think was the place I thought particularly good.
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Post #104 by TittiesNBeer » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:30 pm

Furnas has the one restaurant that cooks the food under ground with the heat from the volcano. That sounds pretty good.

Fereiria is another place I want to go. But that's next week


Saturday we are going to see a football game between Santa Clara and Madeira
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Post #105 by Craig » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:41 pm

There was more than one restaurant that did that, but it wasn't anything special.
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Post #106 by TittiesNBeer » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:03 am

Dog wrote:I went to one on a second floor. Go to that one! Meats/saussages slow cooked in their juices for like 8 hours or something, I found it quite tasty.


My aunt lives 6 months here and 6 months in Canada. She recommended a specific place to us and called ahead. I'll let you know the name when we get back.
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Post #107 by TittiesNBeer » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:14 pm

The restaurant we went to was called Miroma. The food was delicious. The sausages and other meat just melt in your mouth.

We also went swimming in the sulfur pool which was relaxing and very warm. But the water is brown from the sulfur.

We walked around where they cook the food in the ground and the other caldeiras too.

Tomorrow we are going to the soccer game.
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Post #108 by TittiesNBeer » Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:54 pm

We went to Vila Franca to this place my uncle knows for wings before the game. Made with piri piri and lemon. They were delicious.

After the game we went back to ponta delgada for grilled lapas

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Post #109 by TittiesNBeer » Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:08 pm

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Post #110 by TittiesNBeer » Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:46 pm

We went to Ferreira today. That was nice. The natural pool odf the ocean filled with water heated by the volcano. It was nice.
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Post #111 by TittiesNBeer » Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:55 pm

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Post #113 by TittiesNBeer » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:56 am

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Post #114 by TittiesNBeer » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:31 pm

Went to the view of lagoa fogo today. That was fantastic too.

Also went for some nice octopus.

And ribeira grand and capelas
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Post #115 by TittiesNBeer » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:54 am

Went to Villa Franca and took the boat to the island for swimming in the cove
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Post #116 by TittiesNBeer » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:36 am

Yeah definitely. If you don't mind the cold Atlantic water... Its a very scenic spot. Good snorkling in there too lots of colorful fish
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Post #117 by TittiesNBeer » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:31 pm

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Post #118 by MP » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:33 pm

We got our cash a couple weeks ago.
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Post #119 by TittiesNBeer » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:52 pm

Yeah looked into it further. I was on a european airline (SATA), heading to a european destination. By the same law they owe 600. We should be getting the cash soon.
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Post #120 by Twitter bArt » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:04 pm

so like who wants to put an itinerary together for me

roughly 2 weeks

Definitely want to do Lisbon and Porto

so where do we start, where do we go
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Post #121 by Boring Choice #2 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:34 pm

I'd go to Spain and not bother with Portugal at all. Or somewhere else that is nice.
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Post #122 by PredsFan77 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:57 pm

Wat about like 5-6 days
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Post #123 by MP » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:03 pm

Lisbon and Porto are great, and I much preferred them to Seville.

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Post #124 by Craig » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:11 am

If you fly with Portugal's shit national airline, you could do an extended layover in the Azores, which would probably be worth it for a couple of days.

Their planes are shit though. Like three 13 inch TVs hanging from the ceiling for entertainment shit.
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Post #126 by PredsFan77 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:55 am

id probably fly into madrid and connect to porto or lisbon. how many days you need for each place? any other place worth going to?
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Post #127 by Twitter bArt » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:16 pm

Boring Choice #2 wrote:I'd go to Spain and not bother with Portugal at all. Or somewhere else that is nice.



I've come to the conclusion that I hate the Spaniards, but can tolerate the Portos after putting up with them here for many years

So maybe a visit to Seville, but we did a week in Spain 2 years ago and it was the longest month of my life
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Post #128 by MP » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:56 pm

My trip was 4 days Lisbon, 2 days south coast, 3 days Seville (with day trip to Gibraltar), 3 days Porto, then back to Lisbon (which turned into 2 nights when the plane was cancelled).

Lisbon is easily a 4 day city, Porto is probably 3, maybe 4 if you're into going to multiple port wine places. We went to Taylor's which we really enjoyed. One regret was not tacking on a couple days for the Douro valley, especially once we became interested in the port wine and history. We did a one day river cruise which was nice, but some of the overnight packages were intriguing, but we didn't have the time.

The south coast is pretty nice too with nice beaches. Very laid back, I'd suggest sticking to the more western side though which is more nature reservist and less developed. We stayed near Salema.

Other then that, Coimbra was a nice spot for lunch between Lisbon and Porto. Nice old town on a hill near the university (and just north of the area of last year's forest fire). Lagos is an old beach town with some twisty streets, but has a party scene with the younger crowds/backpackers, similar but lesser Mykonos, not really our thing anymore.

The driving was easy, except in downtown Porto. Rented a car from the Lisbon airport.

To do it again, I'd probably fly into Lisbon and out of Porto, to save to return trip an more time in Douro. A bit pricey especially with the rental car drop off, but probably worth it.
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Post #129 by PredsFan77 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:15 pm

lisbon is 4 days?!?! how many days is paris then?
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Post #130 by MP » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:47 pm

PredsFan77 wrote:lisbon is 4 days?!?! how many days is paris then?

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Post #131 by Craig » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:48 pm

I ran out of stuff I wanted to do in Paris after 13 days.
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Post #132 by Twitter bArt » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:45 pm

so Lisbon and Porto are for sures

now, do we do the Algarves or Sao Miguel
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...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



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Post #133 by TittiesNBeer » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:23 pm

Artie wrote:so Lisbon and Porto are for sures

now, do we do the Algarves or Sao Miguel


Sao Miguel is nicer and less tourists (but still a lot of tourists).

You'd have to fly there though, where the Algarve you wouldn't.
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Post #134 by Twitter bArt » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:28 pm

TittiesNBeer wrote:
Artie wrote:so Lisbon and Porto are for sures

now, do we do the Algarves or Sao Miguel


Sao Miguel is nicer and less tourists (but still a lot of tourists).

You'd have to fly there though, where the Algarve you wouldn't.



would you do it before Porto or after Porto?
assuming we start in Lisbon
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Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



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Post #135 by Twitter bArt » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:33 pm

not a beach person, so Sao Miguel sounds more interesting

ok, thanks
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Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #136 by TittiesNBeer » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:57 pm

agree with dog, do what flight configurations work in terms of order.
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Post #137 by TittiesNBeer » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:59 pm

There are also plenty of places to swim in Sao Miguel, but you wouldn't get the long, lush sand beaches.... more rocky. But the swimming is good. and the options are Cold atlantic ocean water, or natural warm water heated by volcanic activity. there are a number of options on the island for both.
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Post #138 by Twitter bArt » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:21 pm

so looks like we are doing

Mtl to Lisbon
Lisbon to Sao Miguel
Sao Miguel to Porto
Porto to MTL

is it worth taking the ferry to Sao Miguel or just fly?
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It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #139 by Twitter bArt » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:43 pm

Dog wrote:Ferry from Lisbon to Sao Miguel? That must be quite a long trip, the island is way out into the ocean (some 1/3 of the way to north america). I’d fly, but never really looked at feries -may be doable.



maybe we'll fly then
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It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #140 by Craig » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:17 pm

I'd really hit it on the way there or the way back. Seems like a long flight to do twice in the middle of a trip.
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Post #141 by Twitter bArt » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:53 pm

so any comments on SATA airlines

they have flights from toronto to Sao Miguel and then from Lisbon to Toronto
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Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #142 by Twitter bArt » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:02 pm

I'll take Greg's word for it
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #143 by Craig » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:17 am

Old planes, but otherwise they were fine I thought. Just don't expect much in the way of in flight entertainment.
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Post #144 by Twitter bArt » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:46 am

Craig wrote:Old planes, but otherwise they were fine I thought. Just don't expect much in the way of in flight entertainment.



i bring my own...IPad , movies, books

more interested in appearance of safety and comfort of fight (seats etc).
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It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #145 by MP » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:35 am

Artie wrote:so looks like we are doing

Mtl to Lisbon
Lisbon to Sao Miguel
Sao Miguel to Porto
Porto to MTL

is it worth taking the ferry to Sao Miguel or just fly?

Like Greg said, I'd also do:
MtL to Lisbon
Train to porto
Porto to Sao Miguel
Sao Miguel to mtl.

Porto and Lisbon are like a 2.5 hour drive apart, you don't need to complicate it with a transatlantic flight.
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Post #146 by Craig » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:05 am

Dog wrote:Tight seats. Safety....well they do daily transatlantic flights and aren’t really in the news, so I guess that’s good.


Yeah, seats aren't great.

Safety? All the airlines in the world combined to report zero deaths last year. I never really worry about safety.
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Post #147 by Twitter bArt » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:46 pm

MP wrote:
Artie wrote:so looks like we are doing

Mtl to Lisbon
Lisbon to Sao Miguel
Sao Miguel to Porto
Porto to MTL

is it worth taking the ferry to Sao Miguel or just fly?

Like Greg said, I'd also do:
MtL to Lisbon
Train to porto
Porto to Sao Miguel
Sao Miguel to mtl.

Porto and Lisbon are like a 2.5 hour drive apart, you don't need to complicate it with a transatlantic flight.



so looking at the reverse

Montreal to Sao Miguel
Sau Miguel to Porto
Porto to Lisbon (drive)
Lisbon to Mtl

although could change depending on flights
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Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



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Re: Portugal

Post #148 by TittiesNBeer » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:56 pm

SATA are Crap

Beware of long delays.
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Re: Portugal

Post #149 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:13 am

This Sao Miguel part is really complicating things
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Re: Portugal

Post #150 by Craig » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:51 am

Dog wrote:Yeah, I don’t think I’d do sao miguel as part of a mainland porto trip -unless you really wanna. It’s like stopping in iceland on the way to paris or somewhat. Could be cool, but also a bit out of the way/complicating. Depends how interested you are un seeing it.


That's the only way I would see Iceland.

If you can stomach a cheap airline it's a trivial way to see a chunk of the world you'll never get to see otherwise. If you can't, then it's not worth the hassle.

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