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Post #7401 by jester » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:01 pm

Boring Choice #2 wrote:I have no idea what clash of civilizations is about, but yeah, those are the new cold war. Or luke warm war or what have you.

It contains to some extent the hostility between countries (or in some cases people or groups of people). The relationship is characterized by threats and / or propaganda, and / or generally antagonism.

It's not the same as the cold war between the Americans and the Russians was, but still.


There's an old but influential (and controversial) essay by Samuel Huntington that's worth reading in this context.
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Post #7402 by jester » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:02 pm

Dog wrote:The era of celebrity presidents. With campaigns launched at the Golden Globes.

:why:


I kind of doubt Oprah is ultimately viable, simply because there will be deep skepticism in the Dem primary electorate of celebrity. But, she has a lot more going for her than Trump did ...
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Post #7403 by Boring Choice #2 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:53 pm

i read that. it doesn't really talk about a "new cold war" so much as it talks about new global tensions coming from non-state agents in a post-cold war world.

my point was really just that the west have taken a "new cold war" stance with islam (warmer than cold), china (coldish), and latin america (cold in a selective manner) through their policies and actions. whether those tensions grow into full out conflict (as opposed to targeted conflict such as the battle against isis) or stay in the current state of threats / propaganda / general antagonism is debatable.
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Post #7404 by jester » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:30 pm

Boring Choice #2 wrote:i read that. it doesn't really talk about a "new cold war" so much as it talks about new global tensions coming from non-state agents in a post-cold war world.

my point was really just that the west have taken a "new cold war" stance with islam (warmer than cold), china (coldish), and latin america (cold in a selective manner) through their policies and actions. whether those tensions grow into full out conflict (as opposed to targeted conflict such as the battle against isis) or stay in the current state of threats / propaganda / general antagonism is debatable.


I think you need to re-read it. Huntington's primary thesis is that civilizations (explicitly religious/national/ethnic culture groups) would come to define geopolitics.

I think it's hard to make such a strong claim about the West. There are very clearly elements spouting a more ethnocentric protectionism within the West, but those views are far from being uncontested internally. The Trump admin has its own path, but a President Clinton or any other Dem (and most GOP) president would pursue a different agenda there.
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Post #7405 by jester » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:18 pm

Dog wrote:The entry on the article (:)) wasn’t limited to non-state agents. It just kinda redefined conflicts in a post cold war world as between “civilizations” (ie. blocks of countries based on culture) rather than ideology (as was the case during the cold war).

I don’t know that I buy that it is primarily culture driven. Seems much more geo-political than cultural in most cases (such as China, which he claims to be the prime challenger). Growing towards a multipolar world after the end of the cold war.


There are a lot of reasons to question the thesis. That being said, part of the argument would be that culture informs geopolitics here. That is, China (and potentially Asia more generally) well push back against the West (which includes notions of political authority and structure, etc.).

It's a strong thesis, and controversial for good reason. It isn't stupid, though, and a lot of "important" people believe in it to one degree or another.
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Post #7406 by Craig » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:26 pm

Arguing that the West is fundamentally at war with Islam is very difficult. For one thing, we (the West, particularly US) have forged alliances throughout the middle east and are really only at war with specific subsets of Islamic places. Even those enemies are very region-specific; in some places we hate AQ, but in others we leverage them against other people we like less. It seems a lot less like we're engaged in a war hot or cold with Islam, but rather we're the current preeminent world power so we're involved in all conflicts and Islam is a pretty conflicted place.

The other thing is Islam itself, insofar as you can address is as a monolith, is much more absorbed in internal conflicts than external. The Shia/Sunni and Saudi/Iranian conflicts are a lot more prominent for them than their beef with us. This is where guys like Bannon are fully off their rockers. Islam has no aims on subjugating the West in any meaningful way, they're too worried about their own conflicts to engage us like that.

Pedantically, there's no way this war is cold either. It went hot aaaaaaaages ago.
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Post #7407 by Craig » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:34 pm

The concept of US being in a cold war with Latin America I think is so out there that I won't even bother to address it. Sketch immigration policies aren't enough to prove that claim, imo.

China is the closest you can get, but even then I really don't think there's anything like a cold war going on. Certainly there's some amount of animosity and competitiveness going on. China is clearly ascendant and are starting to challenge the norms of US dominated geopolitics. But they're not fundamentally opposed to the West in the way that the soviets were before them. China shows no signs of wanting to overthrow the West and subjugate them to their world order. They want a bigger say on the world stage, but they seem perfectly happy to join the existing international community. China today strikes me more like Japan and the Asian Tigers of the 20th century, they're just trying to leverage us, make a bunch of shit and get rich.
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Post #7408 by jester » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:57 pm

Huntington views Japan as a distinct culture, for what it's worth.
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Post #7409 by senate » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:53 pm

Jesus, thank god I didn't mention The Third Wave or The End of History.

Anyways, I think Trump's plan tonight is to distract his supporters from The Fire and the Fury by heroically standing up to black teenagers appealing for equal protection of law by storming out of a stadium:

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Post #7410 by PredsFan77 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:09 pm

nah brah, they aint protesting tonight. that's millionaires doing that, not kids that are mainly dirt ass poor. their multi-millionaire white coaches wouldn't allow it.
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Post #7411 by PredsFan77 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:09 pm

trump getting booed by his base lol
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Post #7412 by PredsFan77 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:10 pm

they're saying booourns! boourns!
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Post #7414 by chicpea » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:21 pm

So long, Sloppy Steve.
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Post #7415 by mooseOAK » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:31 pm

senate wrote:https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/950724556217634816

Clever way of diverting taxpayer money to construction companies.
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Post #7416 by PredsFan77 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:53 pm

as long as i dont have to go back to the sketchy part of town to vote i'm ok with this
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Post #7417 by jester » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:26 am

Dog wrote:Now watch Gorsuch be the deciding vote in overturning this.

:why:


Conversely, watch Roberts migrate to the left on some of this crap (like his ACA vote). SCOTUS is going to be fascinating the next few years.
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Post #7418 by PredsFan77 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:41 pm

fascinating for me to poop on
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Post #7419 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:11 pm

Daily reminder that Dems are dogshit.

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Post #7420 by AD » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:11 pm

On this specific issue, the Dems are probably historically much worse. Dems hate freedom remember.
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Post #7421 by senate » Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:36 pm



And the White House pretty much acknowledges it:

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Post #7422 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:39 pm

Is he talking about that socialist shithole Norway?
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Post #7423 by PredsFan77 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:09 pm

norway is too expensive.
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Post #7424 by TittiesNBeer » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:28 pm

What a shitbox.
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Post #7425 by PredsFan77 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:45 pm

well it does have a lot of oil reserves
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Post #7426 by senate » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:04 pm

Well, he's got those libtard cucks there.

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Post #7427 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:27 pm

*someone mentioned a Nordic country*

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Post #7428 by PredsFan77 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:05 pm



FCC gonna have some problems between the TV and newspaper not censoring this
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Post #7429 by chicpea » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:10 pm

Too funny. The chatter has always been that the reason Trump changes his mind so often is that he's most influenced by the last person he's talked with.

Yesterday that Press Conference he had in which he backtracked on his vow "100 %" to meet with Mueller, who was standing beside him? Why the PM of Norway.


edit: Also, am I the only one for whom posted tweets aren't loading? It's infuriating.
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Post #7430 by TittiesNBeer » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:58 pm

Can we have a President who doesn't come from a shithole family like the Trumps.
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Post #7431 by Craig » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:48 am

chicpea wrote:Too funny. The chatter has always been that the reason Trump changes his mind so often is that he's most influenced by the last person he's talked with.

Yesterday that Press Conference he had in which he backtracked on his vow "100 %" to meet with Mueller, who was standing beside him? Why the PM of Norway.


edit: Also, am I the only one for whom posted tweets aren't loading? It's infuriating.


It's working for me on mobile but not my laptop. I assumed it was my add blocker or something.
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Post #7432 by vonbonds » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:25 am

TittiesNBeer wrote:Can we have a President who doesn't come from a shithole family like the Trumps.

Nope

Oprah’s next then the Olson twins although that order hasn’t been decided yet by the Koch brothers
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Post #7434 by AD » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:07 pm

Pretty korean spy gets access to oval office.
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Post #7435 by senate » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:21 pm

You guys are still talking about the pretty Korean lady? That news is so 30 minutes ago.

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Post #7436 by TittiesNBeer » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:32 pm

Meh, Donald cheated on his wife with a porn star and paid her.

Thats the least of his crimes.

Did she pee on him? Please tell me she peed on him.
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Post #7437 by PredsFan77 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:14 pm

can she comment on his shithole like the honorable senator collins?

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Post #7439 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:28 pm

Putin has said enough.
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Post #7441 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:27 pm

If someone were to bomb Hawaii do you think we'd get a day off? I think we'd get a day off.

Honestly I'm a little disappointed.
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Post #7442 by chicpea » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:42 pm

Some predictable but nevertheless amusing lighting.

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Post #7443 by PredsFan77 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:17 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:If someone were to bomb Hawaii do you think we'd get a day off? I think we'd get a day off.

Honestly I'm a little disappointed.



who exactly is 'we'
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Post #7444 by Westy » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:21 am

chicpea wrote:Some predictable but nevertheless amusing lighting.



Take that drumpf. #resist
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Post #7446 by PredsFan77 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:07 pm

looks what these scumbag canadians are doing to american property:

Storm blew historic building to Canada; Maine wants it back

https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/ ... ts-it-back
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Post #7447 by chicpea » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:16 pm

We need more updates on everything.
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Post #7450 by Dr_Chimera » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:40 pm

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