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Post #6201 by DeadPhish » Wed May 02, 2018 12:36 pm

I'm starting to feel it too. I got prescribed Singulair, which i think is for asthma, but definitely keeps most of my allergies at bay.


Whats strange is it was much worse up in Canada than here, but then again i might just be allergic to Canada.
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Post #6202 by jester » Wed May 02, 2018 1:09 pm

DeadPhish wrote:I'm starting to feel it too. I got prescribed Singulair, which i think is for asthma, but definitely keeps most of my allergies at bay.


Whats strange is it was much worse up in Canada than here, but then again i might just be allergic to Canada.


I think "new" environments will fuck you up. My first spring living in NJ (after a decade plus in the city) was the most brutal allergy experience of my life.
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Post #6203 by CantSeeColors » Wed May 02, 2018 7:48 pm

DeadPhish wrote:I'm starting to feel it too. I got prescribed Singulair, which i think is for asthma, but definitely keeps most of my allergies at bay.


Whats strange is it was much worse up in Canada than here, but then again i might just be allergic to Canada.

Singulair is for both. I take it for my asthma and my doc picked it over other drugs because I get some allergies too
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Post #6204 by DeadPhish » Thu May 03, 2018 11:26 am

jester wrote:I think "new" environments will fuck you up. My first spring living in NJ (after a decade plus in the city) was the most brutal allergy experience of my life.


Yea definitely. When ever we stay at my parents house in Ocean City I always get flair ups, but I also think there is mold in the house since after Sandy
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Post #6205 by DeadPhish » Thu May 03, 2018 11:27 am

CantSeeColors wrote:Singulair is for both. I take it for my asthma and my doc picked it over other drugs because I get some allergies too


It definitely works for allergies. I also take Zyzol for when it gets really bad. Zyzol really works the best for me, but its expensive and my insurance doesnt cover it anymore since its over the counter.
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Post #6206 by Rogers Pancreas » Mon May 07, 2018 9:17 pm

Fun fact for us American Broads: There was a spanking scene cut from the movie Hellraiser because it was too much.

The seduction scene between Julia and Frank was, initially, a lot more explicit. Barker says on the commentary: "We did a version of this scene which had some spanking in it and the MPAA was not very appreciative of that. Lord knows where the spanking footage is. Somebody has it somewhere…The MPAA told me I was allowed two consecutive buttock thrusts from Frank but three is deemed obscene!"

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Post #6207 by jester » Tue May 08, 2018 1:17 pm

There's a documentary about the MPAA ("Rate This Movie," maybe?), that is actually pretty interesting. Gets into how absurd the rating system is, and spefically highlights the way violence is okay while even modest sexual stuff ups the rating quickly.
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Post #6208 by chaosof99 » Tue May 08, 2018 1:31 pm

It's called "This Film is not yet rated" and it is indeed excellent. I for my part have never understood how america thinks in this regard, particularly during the whole "nipplegate" Super Bowl Half-time show fiasco.
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Post #6209 by Rogers Pancreas » Tue May 08, 2018 8:52 pm

You can probably start by blaming the Catholics and have a high level of confidence you're in the right. Just saying...
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Post #6210 by jester » Tue May 08, 2018 11:35 pm

Rogers Pancreas wrote:You can probably start by blaming the Catholics and have a high level of confidence you're in the right. Just saying...


This is America dude, Puritanism doesn't come from Catholicism.
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Post #6211 by Rogers Pancreas » Tue May 08, 2018 11:38 pm

jester wrote:
Rogers Pancreas wrote:You can probably start by blaming the Catholics and have a high level of confidence you're in the right. Just saying...


This is America dude, Puritanism doesn't come from Catholicism.

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Post #6212 by jester » Wed May 09, 2018 8:51 am

Pence embraced Evangelism a while back. Catholicism has only had a marginal influence on US culture, so tough to lay the blame there. Protestantism is the real root of the religious culture wars (the recently departed Billy Graham and co.).
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Post #6213 by Konecny HypeTrain Captain » Fri May 11, 2018 12:32 am

After literally a month I'm finally done training at my new job. Fuck my life that shit was stressful.
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Post #6214 by JLHockeyKnight » Fri May 11, 2018 8:22 pm

FYI folks. My wife gave birth late last night at 11:40pm to our second child (another daughter). I've been less active here lately because of the pregnancy, work on our new house, and lack of hockey. Now the excuses will include lack of sleep.

Baby and mommy are healthy. All is good.
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Post #6215 by Konecny HypeTrain Captain » Fri May 11, 2018 8:59 pm

Awesome JL, congrats!
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Post #6216 by Hovercraft » Fri May 11, 2018 11:24 pm

JLHockeyKnight wrote:FYI folks. My wife gave birth late last night at 11:40pm to our second child (another daughter). I've been less active here lately because of the pregnancy, work on our new house, and lack of hockey. Now the excuses will include lack of sleep.

Baby and mommy are healthy. All is good.


Congrats dude!
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Post #6217 by Rogers Pancreas » Fri May 11, 2018 11:51 pm

JLHockeyKnight wrote:FYI folks. My wife gave birth late last night at 11:40pm to our second child (another daughter). I've been less active here lately because of the pregnancy, work on our new house, and lack of hockey. Now the excuses will include lack of sleep.

Baby and mommy are healthy. All is good.

We can all expect an uptick in posts, then. Particularly between the hours of 12 AM and 4 AM.

Congrats, JL.
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Post #6218 by jester » Sat May 12, 2018 12:30 am

JLHockeyKnight wrote:FYI folks. My wife gave birth late last night at 11:40pm to our second child (another daughter). I've been less active here lately because of the pregnancy, work on our new house, and lack of hockey. Now the excuses will include lack of sleep.

Baby and mommy are healthy. All is good.


Congrats! Second time around is a lot easier to cope with, IMO.
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Post #6219 by chaosof99 » Sat May 12, 2018 1:39 am

Congratulations, JL and family.
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Post #6220 by JLHockeyKnight » Sat May 12, 2018 8:00 am

Thanks guys!
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Post #6221 by DeadPhish » Sat May 12, 2018 11:05 am

Congrats!
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Post #6222 by FlyHigh » Mon May 14, 2018 12:46 pm

Congrats JL!
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Post #6223 by JLHockeyKnight » Mon May 14, 2018 6:14 pm

Fuck me sideways. I miss sleep.

P.S. Not bitching. No regrets, still worth it.
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Post #6224 by jester » Mon May 14, 2018 9:50 pm

JLHockeyKnight wrote:Fuck me sideways. I miss sleep.

P.S. Not bitching. No regrets, still worth it.


Yeah, those first few weeks are godawful. Survive each day. I swear I had PTSD from my son and then my daughter showed up.
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Post #6225 by JLHockeyKnight » Tue May 15, 2018 1:18 am

jester wrote:
JLHockeyKnight wrote:Fuck me sideways. I miss sleep.

P.S. Not bitching. No regrets, still worth it.


Yeah, those first few weeks are godawful. Survive each day. I swear I had PTSD from my son and then my daughter showed up.


When my wife said she wanted to get pregnant again I actually told her "Dammit you want to go through THAT again." The first night your kid sleeps through the night, you feel like you won the Stanley Cup.

Yes I'm posting this at 1:18 am.
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Post #6226 by CantSeeColors » Tue May 15, 2018 10:00 am

We're expecting our first, and you guys are getting me really excited for it.
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Post #6227 by DeadPhish » Tue May 15, 2018 1:42 pm

I like vacations more than kids.
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Post #6228 by DeadPhish » Tue May 15, 2018 1:43 pm

Oh but congrats CSC!
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Post #6229 by JLHockeyKnight » Tue May 15, 2018 5:25 pm

CantSeeColors wrote:We're expecting our first, and you guys are getting me really excited for it.


It's totally worth it. Just the first three months generally blow because it's a lot of work and not much reward. Newborns have 3 actions: poop, eat, and sleep. Sometimes they'll look around but not much else.

Once you get through that, the second they legit smile at you recognizing it, it'll all be worth it.

Congrats CSC!
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Post #6230 by Kilgore Trout » Tue May 15, 2018 8:10 pm

JLHockeyKnight wrote:
CantSeeColors wrote:We're expecting our first, and you guys are getting me really excited for it.


It's totally worth it. Just the first three months generally blow because it's a lot of work and not much reward. Newborns have 3 actions: poop, eat, and sleep. Sometimes they'll look around but not much else.

Once you get through that, the second they legit smile at you recognizing it, it'll all be worth it.

Congrats CSC!


Well, and a fourth action, which is to scream at you until you guess and fix whichever of the other three is bothering her at the time.
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Post #6231 by jester » Tue May 15, 2018 11:08 pm

CantSeeColors wrote:We're expecting our first, and you guys are getting me really excited for it.


Set your expectations as low as possible, and it will be much easier. Then, at 2-3 months, they smile at you and it's cool as fuck and things progress from there. Then you get real fun lift off at about 2. My son says some funny shit now, and is really excited about doing things.

But, yeah, don't let anyone fool you about the first couple of months ... and, early warning, you will feel woefully unprepared when they send you home from the hospital. The good news is that they are harder to break than you imagine.
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Post #6232 by CantSeeColors » Wed May 16, 2018 6:31 am

Oh my expectations are low for the first few months, so that's good to hear. Not looking forward to heading back to work when the kid is a week old, a complete terror, and not letting us sleep at all
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Post #6233 by JLHockeyKnight » Wed May 16, 2018 11:03 am

jester wrote:
CantSeeColors wrote:We're expecting our first, and you guys are getting me really excited for it.


Set your expectations as low as possible, and it will be much easier. Then, at 2-3 months, they smile at you and it's cool as fuck and things progress from there. Then you get real fun lift off at about 2. My son says some funny shit now, and is really excited about doing things.

But, yeah, don't let anyone fool you about the first couple of months ... and, early warning, you will feel woefully unprepared when they send you home from the hospital. The good news is that they are harder to break than you imagine.


Underline 1: My daughter who is almost 3 amazes me. She's been using the word "actually" quite well.

Since the second baby was born, my mom (Grandma) has stayed over to help out since my wife had a c-section and is recovering. My step dad (Pop Pop) had to leave on Saturday to go help my brother with some things as he just bought a house and was moving in. Yesterday, on the way back from daycare, my oldest asks "Grandma at house? and I say yes. Then she asks "Pop Pop at Uncle's house?" I was like "Damn how did you remember that?"

Underline 2: Oh I still had slight nervous/excitement shakes loading this new baby into the car and driving her home the first time, and I had already went through it with my first daughter. I don't think they'll ever go away.
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Post #6234 by JLHockeyKnight » Wed May 16, 2018 11:18 am

CantSeeColors wrote:Oh my expectations are low for the first few months, so that's good to hear. Not looking forward to heading back to work when the kid is a week old, a complete terror, and not letting us sleep at all


It actually isn't that bad depending on how you handle sleep. The first night or two are always a cluster fuck. I think I slept an hour at most the first night, just trying to figure out feeding, etc. I'm glad my mom is staying with us because the following day she took over for 2 hours and let me and my wife crash for a bit. My wife also wanted to exclusively breast feed which the baby was passing out from her body heat before she would finish enough for a "full meal" so if we put her down to sleep she'd get fussy unless we held her to sleep. We switched to bottle feeding the next day, now she'll eat enough and pass out after a full meal, and after maybe 10 minutes of holding her and burping I can put her down to rest and get other things done.

After a few days you will get down the baby's schedule and can start scheduling with your significant other who takes what shifts at night. Slowly, the baby will sleep longer between feedings (albeit eat a lot more at each feeding and poop a lot more) then somewhere between 3-6 months, maybe earlier, they will finally sleep through the night.

I think to account for me going back to work, I'm going to get our oldest to bed between 7 or 7:30, then let my wife sleep until midnight or 12:30; she'll wake up once in that time frame to pump, go back to sleep, then stay with the baby until I wake up at 5:30 for work. We have a futon set up downstairs where she will sleep next to the baby...I'll probably binge TV/movies. Then I'll be responsible for getting my oldest to and from daycare.

When I posted my annoyed message at 1AM 2 nights ago, I wasn't still fully recovered yet. Last night I felt great. Feel much better this morning. No return to work yet but I've had errands to run yesterday and today and I could have pushed myself to midnight last night with some help from my good friend caffeine.
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Post #6235 by CantSeeColors » Wed May 16, 2018 3:44 pm

Heh, I gave up caffeine months ago. I'm sure that'll last about 12 seconds post-birth.
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Post #6236 by jester » Wed May 16, 2018 6:10 pm

Sleep is really kid dependant. Kid 1 was a great napper, but a nightmare with bedtime. Kid 2 slepts 7+ hrs a night at like week 2, but has never been a good napper.

I definitely was better prepared mentally for the sleep problem with 2, as well.
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Post #6237 by Rogers Pancreas » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:10 pm

It's a curious feeling, to look back and realize you may have watched the greatest of all-time at their respective craft, and not even fully realized it until decades after the fact.

Lebron, Ovechkin, the Williams sisters, Phelps, Lance Armstrong (before the doping scandal), Brady, etc. there's been a number of them over the years, and NOT ONE OF THEM HAVE HELPED OUT THE GOD DAMNED PHILADELPHIA FLYERS.

Bunch of selfish bastards.
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Post #6238 by Konecny HypeTrain Captain » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:08 am

Federer is always the big one for me, it was a shame for my man Roddick to be born in this era. Fuck maybe I'm underrating Ovy though if you're putting him in that group.
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Post #6239 by Rogers Pancreas » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:41 am

I always forget about Federer. Then again, I don't follow tennis much (sic) at all.

Ovechkin I had to include, In seven of the thirteen years he's been in the league, he's led the league in goals scored. In eleven of the thirteen, he's finished top-five. The only players that are close, in historical context even, are Bobby Hull and Phil Esposito.
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Post #6240 by vonbonds » Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:17 am

They’re all great until the next generation. That’s how sports works.
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Post #6241 by jester » Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:10 pm

vonbonds wrote:They’re all great until the next generation. That’s how sports works.


Yeah, nutrition, training, medicine, etc. point to the next generation always having a step up.

Interestingly, maybe the only sport/position where athletic ceiling has been reached is pitching in baseball. The force on tendons and ligaments is already maxed out ... so, short of bio-engineered arms, we likely won't see a significant rise in pitching velocity.
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Post #6242 by vonbonds » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:41 pm

jester wrote:
vonbonds wrote:They’re all great until the next generation. That’s how sports works.


Yeah, nutrition, training, medicine, etc. point to the next generation always having a step up.

Interestingly, maybe the only sport/position where athletic ceiling has been reached is pitching in baseball. The force on tendons and ligaments is already maxed out ... so, short of bio-engineered arms, we likely won't see a significant rise in pitching velocity.

Major league hitters can hit 110mph fastballs so while you’re right it doesn’t matter. I’m shocked all pitchers don’t learn a proper change up as that’s a helluva pitch to match with a classic 94-95mph softball.
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Post #6243 by jester » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:45 pm

vonbonds wrote:
jester wrote:
vonbonds wrote:They’re all great until the next generation. That’s how sports works.


Yeah, nutrition, training, medicine, etc. point to the next generation always having a step up.

Interestingly, maybe the only sport/position where athletic ceiling has been reached is pitching in baseball. The force on tendons and ligaments is already maxed out ... so, short of bio-engineered arms, we likely won't see a significant rise in pitching velocity.

Major league hitters can hit 110mph fastballs so while you’re right it doesn’t matter. I’m shocked all pitchers don’t learn a proper change up as that’s a helluva pitch to match with a classic 94-95mph softball.


Change-ups are hard to throw well. What makes em special when they're good.

And, BTW, it definitely matters. If 100+ became common they would likely have to move the mound back or the games would all be 2-1. Even for MLB hitters there's a big difference in hitting 90, 95, and the rare 100+.

Just a personal anecdote on this. I grew up playing legion, and played against a guy named Randy Truselo. He was a 2nd round pick by the Rangers (sadly, his arm gave out on him). Dude threw 96ish. The difference between 90 (there were a few that could hit that) and 96 was unbelievable. I struck out on a slider, and was thrilled I recognized it out of his hand. I just remember the first pitch going by and mouthing "wow" to my teammates.
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Post #6244 by Hovercraft » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:48 am

Isn't there some sweet spot around 95+ where it becomes too fast for our eyes to properly perceive?
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Post #6245 by jester » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:29 am

Hovercraft wrote:Isn't there some sweet spot around 95+ where it becomes too fast for our eyes to properly perceive?


No idea, but you also just have the shortening of decision making.
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Post #6246 by Rogers Pancreas » Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:10 pm

Hovercraft wrote:Isn't there some sweet spot around 95+ where it becomes too fast for our eyes to properly perceive?

I'm looking for the article, because I remember reading exactly that while sitting outside one of my physics labs some time ago.

There's a relationship between the velocity of the change-up, the point at which it breaks, and the reaction time of a modern athlete which combine to make it a real mother-fucker to actually try and hit (which is not to be confused with anticipating).

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Not exactly the same, but still in the ball park.

Hitting a baseball traveling at 100 mph is often considered one of the most difficult tasks in all of sports. After all, if you hit the ball only 30% of the time, baseball teams will pay you millions of dollars to play for them. Pitches traveling at 100 mph take just 400 ms to travel from the pitcher to the hitter. Since the typical reaction time is 200 ms, and it takes 100 ms to swing the bat, this leaves just 100 ms of observation time on which the hitter can base his swing.

If reacting that fast sounds superhuman, it is; if reaction time were all there was to it, batters would never get a hit. To work around their slow reactions, humans have developed a three-layer mental strategy, and all three layers are perfectly highlighted by the Pujols vs. Finch matchup.


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Post #6247 by jester » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:55 pm

Part of the change-up is also the deception aspect--i.e., the guys that are good at maintaining similar arm velocity when releasing the change-up v. fastball (skill component prior to actual pitch velocity difference). What makes it so damn tricky to throw is that you have so much less manual control over the ball leaving your hand. I could sort-of-throw a circle change (when it worked, it was beautiful), but I rarely tried to throw it in an actual game despite working on it a lot.
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Post #6248 by JLHockeyKnight » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:42 pm

Anyone else get that cold that's going around? We had that one chilly week, seemed like a bunch of folks got sick, including my daughter, who brought it home to me and my wife. Sore throat for a week. Shit sucks.

It's fucking June. I thought colds call it quits for a few months around now.
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Post #6249 by jester » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:07 pm

Didn't get that, but I had a fever and felt like shit on Saturday. Happily a one day thing.

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