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Post #8301 by senate » Tue May 22, 2018 6:15 pm

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Post #8303 by pk shredz » Tue May 22, 2018 6:49 pm

chicpea wrote:I don't recall the FBI informant, Stefan Halper, being named. Is that new?


Its because the NYTs buried the lede Chico. Lots of us missed that it was Stefan Halper. His assistant even went to Papadopolous as one "Ezra Turk" to try and chummy it up with him using sexual advances to gain insight on the campaign.


John Brennan’s Plot to Infiltrate the Trump Campaign
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Post #8305 by pk shredz » Wed May 23, 2018 10:26 am

oh llook israeli collusion

Israeli Intelligence Company Formed Venture With Trump Campaign Firm Cambridge Analytica

WASHINGTON—A company owned by Joel Zamel, an Israeli entrepreneur whose work has drawn the scrutiny of special counsel Robert Mueller, formed a strategic partnership with a data firm for President Donald Trump’s campaign in a joint bid to win business from the U.S. government and other clients after the 2016 election, according to people familiar with the matter.

The Psy-Group, one of Mr. Zamel’s firms, signed a memorandum of understanding with Cambridge Analytica LLC, a digital media firm that helped propel Mr. Trump to the presidency, these people said. Facebook Inc. in March suspended Cambridge over allegations that it improperly harvested the data of millions of Facebook users, accusations that in part led to the firm’s closure earlier this month.

The Dec. 14, 2016, memorandum, as described to The Wall Street Journal, outlines a partnership whereby the two firms could cooperate on a case-by-case basis to provide intelligence and social-media services, or pitch business to an array of clients.

A person familiar with the work of Psy-Group, a private intelligence firm, said the partnership was intended in part to help win government contracts—something that Cambridge and its parent company, SCL Group, were aggressively seeking to do as their allies in the Trump administration took power, according to people familiar with the efforts.

The existence of the memorandum is an example of how the president’s allies sought to gain entry and influence in Washington after the election.

SCL Group won a $500,000 contract from the State Department starting in February 2017 aimed at providing “target audience research,” according to federal records. No government contracts have been awarded to the Psy-Group, according to public records, though not all government contracts—for example, in the arena of intelligence and foreign policy—are publicly disclosed.

A spokesman for SCL and for Cambridge Analytica didn’t respond to requests to comment.

Marc Mukasey, a lawyer for Mr. Zamel, said his client “had nothing to do with Cambridge Analytica.” He has previously said investigators have told him Mr. Zamel isn’t a target of the Mueller investigation.

A person familiar with the memo between Cambridge and Psy-Group, which was first reported by Bloomberg, said it was signed without Mr. Zamel’s involvement. It was unclear whether Mr. Zamel was aware of the deal at the time it was reached.

Mr. Zamel has met with Mr. Mueller’s investigators, who appear to have expanded their inquiries to questions about the influence of a Gulf monarchy during the 2016 election, the Journal has previously reported. Mr. Mueller is investigating whether Trump associates colluded with Russia in the 2016 U.S. election. Mr. Trump denies colluding with Russia, and Moscow denies that it meddled in the election.

In the months before the 2016 election, Mr. Zamel met with Donald Trump Jr. , Mr. Trump’s eldest son, at Trump Tower along with George Nader, a top adviser to the crown prince of the United Arab Emirates, to discuss an offer from Messrs. Zamel and Nader to help boost the campaign, the Journal has previously reported. Mr. Zamel is said to be close to top officials in the U.A.E.

Cambridge Analytica earlier this month announced it was shutting down its operations, along with its U.S. and U.K. affiliates SCL Group and SCL Elections. The firm is liquidating its assets, an administrator for the firm said Tuesday.

Cambridge Analytica faced mounting legal fees in the U.K.’s investigation of the data firm and was rapidly losing clients, according to people familiar with the matter. In March, it suspended its chief executive, Alexander Nix, after undercover journalists at British broadcaster Channel 4 released a video that depicted him describing campaign tactics he said the company had used, among them entrapping political opponents with bribes and sex.

In the video, Mr. Nix said Cambridge Analytica used Israeli companies in its campaign efforts. “We use some British companies, we use some Israeli companies,” he said. “From Israel. Very effective in intelligence gathering.”

Mr. Nix has said he regretted his role in the video, and Cambridge Analytica has said it didn’t use the tactics he described.

One person familiar with the work of both firms said Mr. Nix in the video appeared to be referring to Psy-Group, which does work that tracks closely with Mr. Nix’s description. The intelligence firm’s website says the company’s motto is “shape reality.”

Some of Psy-Group’s work involves setting up “honey traps”—real-world scenarios where people are caught saying embarrassing or incriminating things to gain leverage over them—sometimes using the promise of a romantic relationship as part of the approach, which often begins online, according to people familiar with the firm’s operations.

“The general aim is to get their trust, take that relationship to the next level,” said one person who was familiar with the company’s work. “In many cases, they are able to take that relationship offline. Then they can meet in real life.”

After the 2016 election, Cambridge Analytica aggressively pitched federal agencies, often partnering with larger corporations, according to a person familiar with the efforts.

A wave of negative publicity over the course of 2017 slowed the company’s efforts. When news first emerged last fall that Mr. Nix had contacted WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange during the election, some companies told Cambridge Analytica they no longer wanted its involvement in pitching the government, the person said. Recent revelations over the company’s alleged use of Facebook data brought about “the biggest drop-off,” the person said.

Sometime around 2014, Mr. Zamel began making contacts in the U.A.E., becoming close to the national security adviser there, people familiar with the matter said. A Zamel-owned consulting firm, Wikistrat, which aimed to crowdsource expert opinions on geopolitical problems for corporate clients and governments, conducted war-games scenarios for the government of the U.A.E., though many of the company’s employees remained in the dark about who they were working for, they said. Former employees say that it became increasingly clear that the U.A.E. government was one of the firm’s major clients.

At some point during this time period, Mr. Zamel also launched Psy-Group. In early 2016, the firm began using a London-based headhunter to look for a head of sales—possibly based in the U.S., according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

The head of sales position was marked “confidential,” and a pitch in the documents described Psy-Group as a firm that is “founded and is managed by an experienced group of former high-ranking officers from elite units of some of the world’s most renowned intelligence agencies.”

“Their team has a proven track record in information gathering, analysis, research, special intelligence operations and technology in the physical and cyber domains,” the document said.

Mr. Zamel’s interest in running Wikistrat began to wane around the same time. The firm had one year of profitability, according to one person familiar with its balance sheets, and in 2015 had approximately $6 million in gross revenues, the person said. Mr. Zamel put Wikistrat up for sale in 2015, sending a prospectus to a number of companies looking for a buyer, according to a person who has seen the document.

The person said Mr. Zamel was seeking about $25 million for the company. It hasn’t found a buyer.


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Post #8306 by senate » Wed May 23, 2018 12:32 pm

Cohen was stabbing Putin in the back!

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Post #8307 by senate » Wed May 23, 2018 1:06 pm

And those two more years will be spent in perpetual twitter fights:

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Post #8308 by Retardé S » Wed May 23, 2018 3:05 pm

Can't wait for the Liechtenstein probe, see how that pans out.
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Post #8309 by chicpea » Wed May 23, 2018 7:22 pm

Some Mueller Scenarios:


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Post #8311 by chicpea » Wed May 23, 2018 8:06 pm

Some Mueller Scenarios: Nixon Option


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chicpea wrote:
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Would seem risky. I think there needs to be clear cut evidence of collusion during the campaign. Firing James Comey doesn't seem like it has enough umph to take Trump down. It will look like a set up. Mueller needs to show the goods, TS stuff on Russia.
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Post #8313 by mayoradamwest » Wed May 23, 2018 9:18 pm

Money laundering seems inevitable here, but would they even bother with that?
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Post #8314 by pk shredz » Wed May 23, 2018 9:21 pm

That's kind of what I mean. They could easily take down Trump for anything but if its not related to the 2016 campaign and Russian interference, there will be a ton of push back from the GOP.

Really depends on how the pendulum swings in the mid terms. Dems winning seats will change the calculus.
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Post #8315 by chicpea » Wed May 23, 2018 9:36 pm

How about Murder?
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Post #8317 by senate » Thu May 24, 2018 9:54 am

Trump cancelled the Singapore summit.

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Post #8318 by TittiesNBeer » Thu May 24, 2018 9:55 am

So about that Nobel prize?
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Post #8319 by Craig » Thu May 24, 2018 10:06 am

He wrote a letter that describes his own actions as a detriment to the world.
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Post #8320 by TittiesNBeer » Thu May 24, 2018 10:07 am

Craig wrote:He wrote a letter that describes his own actions as a detriment to the world.
Just repeating what he hears on tv of course.

Someone must have changed the channel from fox without him noticing.
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Post #8321 by senate » Thu May 24, 2018 10:08 am

TittiesNBeer wrote:So about that Nobel prize?


I'm sure Trump will still win the Nobel Prize for Economics for The Art of the Deal. A fake Nobel for a fake tycoon.
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Post #8322 by senate » Thu May 24, 2018 12:07 pm

Looks like the South Korean government received no advanced warning and only found out about it through the media.
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Post #8323 by senate » Thu May 24, 2018 12:32 pm

And the shit show keeps going:

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Post #8324 by senate » Thu May 24, 2018 12:41 pm

Dog wrote:To be fair, I’d be fairly pissed at SK for peddling this if I was America. Grossly naive from all sides.


I don't know how you can blame the South Koreans for trying to use diplomacy to ease military tensions on their northern border. The fantasies that talks would result in North Korea giving up its nuclear weapons or create a path to regime change all came from the Trump administration.
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Post #8325 by pk shredz » Thu May 24, 2018 1:04 pm

Everyone got a little soft. Once we get back to nuclear threats of obliteration, I suspect hands will be forced into a summit.
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Post #8326 by pk shredz » Thu May 24, 2018 1:06 pm

radical

Security Troops on U.S. Nuclear Missile Base Took LSD
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Post #8327 by pk shredz » Thu May 24, 2018 1:15 pm

I think ultimately you had SK telling KJU one thing and Pompeo and Trump telling him another which lead to what the hell is this summit about? "We're not giving up all of our nukes"

NK/China would love to drive a wedge between SK and US.
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Post #8328 by senate » Thu May 24, 2018 1:16 pm

Dog wrote:The roadblocks were always clear. I blame everybody involved in this charade for pretending they magically no longer existed. Failed « talks » can be worse than no talks in how they affect future positions and actions. Not worth risking if there is no reasonable chance of success.


The South Korean-North Korean talks were successful. They agreed to move past the armistice to a permanent peace deal - something that both sides haven't been able to agree to in 65 years. That won't end tension on the peninsula, but it an important step in the (very) long path to peace. The problem is that was too much success. It attracted the glory hound Trump administration into wanting to take a hands on role.
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Post #8329 by senate » Thu May 24, 2018 1:24 pm

The goal of South Korea (and Japan and China) isn't opening North Korea or reunification. It is to ease tensions so that the Korean peninsula isn't constantly on the brink of war. Everyone would be happy to leave North Korea alone if North Korea would only leave them alone too.
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Post #8330 by senate » Thu May 24, 2018 1:29 pm

Anyways, the Korea stuff is old news now:

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Post #8331 by mayoradamwest » Thu May 24, 2018 3:16 pm

I’m wondering if bringing up Lybia was the best move. I could see musing about an assasination being taken the wrong way for some reason.
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Post #8332 by pk shredz » Thu May 24, 2018 3:27 pm

This kind of is Bolton's fault for going on cable news and saying the Libya model should be used for NK. NK media immediately jumped on it.
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Post #8333 by mayoradamwest » Thu May 24, 2018 7:57 pm

Dog wrote:That HAD to be intentional, though. Right?


To what end? Derail the nobel peace prize effort?
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Post #8334 by mayoradamwest » Thu May 24, 2018 9:56 pm

When Donald trump achieve world peace, we won’t be complaining about how the sausage gets made. Unless it’s trump brand sausage I guess. :dunno:
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Post #8335 by IcE ColD » Thu May 24, 2018 10:12 pm

Best sausage in the world, I guarantee you that
This whole idea that we are even important is a fucking illusion. We’re just an accident left to our own devices.

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Post #8337 by senate » Fri May 25, 2018 9:19 am

Predsfan raises an interesting question, who has the bigger ego: Trump or Noel Gallagher?
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Post #8339 by pk shredz » Fri May 25, 2018 12:40 pm

does she mean build a wall with Canada?



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Post #8340 by pk shredz » Fri May 25, 2018 1:05 pm

Southpark had a great episode just about that. The Americans thought behind the wall was some type of paradise but it was a ghost town of zombies and murder.



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Post #8341 by chicpea » Fri May 25, 2018 3:22 pm

I would pay up to 3% more taxes per year to have a wall to keep out the gauche, obese, American tourists with ostentatious gold jewellery strung tightly round their sick, fleshy limbs who flood my neighbourhood every spring and summer and fall and winter.
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Post #8342 by Boring Choice #2 » Fri May 25, 2018 4:27 pm

i had that growing up every summer. the town i lived in was home to many american cottagers who asked dumb questions all the time. i once had a car of americans pull up as they drove by my house with skis strapped to their car and ask seriously where the nearest ski hill was. i told them that the nearest one was actually back over the border where they came from, except it would be open for another four months when it started snowing. i assumed that they were trying to pull some kind of prank, but they seemed very genuine.

i later realized that canadians were stupid too. just in a different way. like answering questions of stupid americans driving cars with skis on the roof in the middle of the summer in small town ontario.
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Post #8343 by pk shredz » Fri May 25, 2018 4:55 pm

susf.

I suspect you'll all be singing a different tune when President Crump declares war on Canada and Mexico because NAFTA talks fall through. How about some respect for the super power below you that could overrun your entire military in no time but hasn't. We've been a wonderful neighbor.

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Post #8344 by mayoradamwest » Fri May 25, 2018 5:17 pm

So are they like, charging for the drug infused mussels?
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Post #8346 by Craig » Fri May 25, 2018 11:37 pm

Cuz I would definitely order drug mussels.
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Post #8347 by pk shredz » Sat May 26, 2018 8:36 am

Drug mussels from Canada*

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Post #8348 by pk shredz » Sat May 26, 2018 9:37 am

I wish we could get a ticker feed of what Donald Trump is thinking while he watches this:

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Post #8349 by pk shredz » Sat May 26, 2018 10:01 am

Lets just all admit, we don't know what the hell is truly going on.

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Post #8350 by mayoradamwest » Sat May 26, 2018 10:28 am

Ego Mania wrote:Drug mussels from Canada*



Gotta appreciate the terroir.

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