Les Deux Solitudes: The WTK Experience

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Re: Les Deux Solitudes: The WTK Experience

Post #501 by IcE ColD » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:14 am

My buttcheeks are widely spread: come and fuck me with might

Oh I'm sorry, like France-French or Quebec-French?

Either way... :rolleyes:
This whole idea that we are even important is a fucking illusion. We’re just an accident left to our own devices.

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Post #502 by Not » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:14 am

Too busy Banane? :crossarms:
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Post #503 by Stalin » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:16 am

AD wrote:I blame French people for most things. The enlightenment leading to the slaughter of their royalty. The help of the American puritans against the British. The colonisation of Haiti, Viet-Nam, North-Africa. Huge groups of people smoking outside in front of Plateau and Mile-End bars.

Fuck the French.


actually smoking at bars is good and should be encouraged
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Post #504 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:00 pm

oh good...another Johnny Come Lately

why does Slavin sound familiar
:mkbét::lr: :lr:

OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone

It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.

Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."

...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...

Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.


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Post #505 by TittiesNBeer » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:51 pm

Dog wrote:My only ever alt was Friend John and that was hilarious.

:crossarms:


That word doesn't mean what you think it means.
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Post #506 by PPJ » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:52 pm

Dog wrote:My only ever alt was Friend John and that was hilarious.

:crossarms:


Know what would be even more hilarious? If your other alt was Jan.
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Post #507 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:43 pm

PPJ wrote:
Dog wrote:My only ever alt was Friend John and that was hilarious.

:crossarms:


Know what would be even more hilarious? If your other alt was Jan.



you mean it wasn't
:mkbét::lr: :lr:



OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




:lr: :lr: :lr:
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Post #508 by TittiesNBeer » Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:28 pm

JANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

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Post #509 by Stalin » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:02 pm

Yes.

It's Petry and the great cast of
Shea "Moves like Michael J Fox" Weber
Karl "Can you open this for me, honey?" Alzner
David "Please keep me for more than a season" Schlemko
Jordie "I'm a pumpkin again" Benn

What a team of puck movers!

- WTK the modern day george carlin

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Post #510 by Mufasa » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:20 pm

Is Stalin WTK? Because i have mixed feelings here.
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Post #511 by AD » Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:16 pm

I love them both.
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Post #512 by mcphee » Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:32 pm

As my friend Mike's Dad said after his wife told him that Princess Dianna had died, I just don't care.
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Post #513 by PPJ » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:34 am

Fuck, reading through the Alzner thread caused my brain to hemmorage.

Sorry Ed
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Post #514 by Twitter bArt » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:47 pm

:mkbét::lr: :lr:



OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




:lr: :lr: :lr:
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Post #515 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:06 pm

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Also, let's keep this thread about Galchenyuk's on-ice performance, development and value and NOT bring in his personal life or race.
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Post #516 by Mufasa » Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:13 pm

Tony is also quite avant garde when it comes to things the Habs organization are thinking and doing.
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Post #517 by Twitter bArt » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:06 pm

Mufasa wrote:
Tony is also quite avant garde when it comes to things the Habs organization are thinking and doing.



Image
:mkbét::lr: :lr:



OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




:lr: :lr: :lr:
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Post #518 by PPJ » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:18 pm

[QUOTE=WeThreeKings]The Leafs top 3 is better than the Habs

Rielly, Gardiner and Zaitsev > Weber, Alzner and Petry.[/QUOTE]

Bwahahahahahaha!
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Post #519 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:28 pm

The reason the Habs are continuously underrated at the start of any season is because experts know any injury to Price, means a tumble in the standings for the Habs. Also it's obvious in these rankings that goal scoring is more valuable then goaltending as you can predict goals, you can't really predict goaltending.

The Habs top6 is a discussion I gravitate towards. Through my research on this team, it is always the main detractor in the Habs success.


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Post #520 by Mufasa » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:19 am

ahmedou wrote:Guess who I saw in this Saturday afternoon. My bus was next to the Toronto Marlies bus at the bridge over the Carrefour Laval. I didn't stop making the middle finger salute and laughing at them. Too bad, I didn't have eggs in my backpack.
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Post #521 by Macbeth » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:57 am

Une crisse de belle vie.
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Post #522 by Mufasa » Sun May 27, 2018 9:36 pm

DAChampion, post: 146336123, member: 121247 wrote:The mismanagement of young talent during the Bergevin administration has been absolutely awful.

Eller, Galchenyuk, Subban, Gallagher, Leblanc, Tinordi, McCarron, etc, not a single young player has been handled in a satisfactory manner. For example, Gallagher was made to take the punishing role of screening the goalie om several years of Habs' power plays, even though he's a small player.

I look forward to a new era, where these morons have less control, and young players are given permission to properly develop.
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Post #523 by Mufasa » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:20 pm

This happened for real. I made a joke about Gabriel Vilard being french then he schooled me, and i came back with even more proof that Gab Vilard is french and that's how he answered me.

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Post #524 by Macbeth » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:58 pm

That place's gonna be mental tonight...
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Post #525 by Craig » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:34 pm

I don't get it. There are French people born in Kingston.
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Post #526 by Mufasa » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:38 pm

Craig wrote:I don't get it. There are French people born in Kingston.


That's what Justin Trudeau wants you to believe.
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Post #527 by Macbeth » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:29 am

This is my most favouritest post ever :

Wouldn't shock me to see Carr to Vegas and replace James Neal's production entirely. Gallant has a way to get the most out of everyone, and Carr is a tenacious nameless player, fits their team well.
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Post #528 by Mufasa » Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:52 am

Macbeth wrote:This is my most favouritest post ever :

Wouldn't shock me to see Carr to Vegas and replace James Neal's production entirely. Gallant has a way to get the most out of everyone, and Carr is a tenacious nameless player, fits their team well.


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Post #529 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:24 am

I am going to sign up over there and rep that user. :colbert:
Also, let's keep this thread about Galchenyuk's on-ice performance, development and value and NOT bring in his personal life or race.
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Post #530 by Macbeth » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:44 am

Mufasa wrote:
Macbeth wrote:This is my most favouritest post ever :

Wouldn't shock me to see Carr to Vegas and replace James Neal's production entirely. Gallant has a way to get the most out of everyone, and Carr is a tenacious nameless player, fits their team well.


HF is Imagination land.

"Wouldn't shock me" !

Pas, "He could", non, "Ça me surprendrait même pas s'il se transformait en marqueur de 30 buts du jour au lendemain".

J'aime leur confiance, leur assurance.

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Post #531 by Mufasa » Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:02 am

Tenacious nameless players.
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Post #532 by Macbeth » Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:07 am

"Faceless speedy forwards" and "rugged high-IQ balanced guy playing defence".
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Post #533 by Macbeth » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:55 am

This is just...

I mean...

These guys are...

I...

Paul Byron for rights to soon-to-be UFA Matt Stajan

Times are tough in MTL.

You can fire a canon down MTL's center ice position / depth.

Bergevin needs to move an asset just to grab a bottom 6 C. Perhaps Stajan can find chemistry with Gallagher and Drouin (playing left wing).

Desperate trade is what you might call this.
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Post #534 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:37 am

Macbeth wrote:This is just...

I mean...

These guys are...

I...

Paul Byron for rights to soon-to-be UFA Matt Stajan

Times are tough in MTL.

You can fire a canon down MTL's center ice position / depth.

Bergevin needs to move an asset just to grab a bottom 6 C. Perhaps Stajan can find chemistry with Gallagher and Drouin (playing left wing).

Desperate trade is what you might call this.


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Also, let's keep this thread about Galchenyuk's on-ice performance, development and value and NOT bring in his personal life or race.
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Macbeth wrote:This is just...

I mean...

These guys are...

I...

Paul Byron for rights to soon-to-be UFA Matt Stajan

Times are tough in MTL.

You can fire a canon down MTL's center ice position / depth.

Bergevin needs to move an asset just to grab a bottom 6 C. Perhaps Stajan can find chemistry with Gallagher and Drouin (playing left wing).

Desperate trade is what you might call this.



:trump: :rudy: :hellyeah: :wink: :creeper2:


:why:
:mkbét::lr: :lr:



OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




:lr: :lr: :lr:
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Post #536 by Mufasa » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:43 pm

waffledave wrote:There is no point having a discussion with you when you debate without integrity.
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Post #537 by Twitter bArt » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:45 pm

Mufasa wrote:
waffledave wrote:There is no point having a discussion with you when you debate without integrity.



is that you he is talking to
:mkbét::lr: :lr:



OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




:lr: :lr: :lr:
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Post #538 by Mufasa » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:49 pm

Twitter bArt wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
waffledave wrote:There is no point having a discussion with you when you debate without integrity.



is that you he is talking to


First thing first, is it you talking?
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Post #539 by Twitter bArt » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:49 pm

yes
:mkbét::lr: :lr:



OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




:lr: :lr: :lr:
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Post #540 by Twitter bArt » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:49 pm

at least I think it's me
:mkbét::lr: :lr:



OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




:lr: :lr: :lr:
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Post #541 by Mufasa » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:50 pm

Twitter bArt wrote:yes


There is no point having a discussion with you when you debate without integrity.
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Post #542 by mcphee » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:52 pm

I think we’re headed to arbitration
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Post #543 by Twitter bArt » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:32 pm

Mufasa wrote:
Twitter bArt wrote:yes


There is no point having a discussion with you when you debate without integrity.



i can always ask Beaksie to debate for me
:mkbét::lr: :lr:



OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




:lr: :lr: :lr:
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Twitter bArt wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
Twitter bArt wrote:yes


There is no point having a discussion with you when you debate without integrity.



i can always ask Beaksie to debate for me
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Post #545 by Mufasa » Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:29 am

BaseballCoach wrote:I suggest a different tactic to achieve the rebuild strategy. Please stick with this as I think it is a more effective way to achieve a rebuild than the top-3 strategy (Edmonton Oiler strategy)

The thing is that you can't ever be sure you will get a top-3 pick so totally tanking a season and inculcating a losing culture is very risky. Again, see the Oilers.

If I were in charge, and in "real life" I am indeed a highly successful manager, I would approach things differently. I would maximize my second and third round picks, and maybe shoot to get one more first round pick for one or both of the next two years.

I would take on lots of bad contracts to get lots of more second and third round picks in the next two years.

I would package Alzner to anyone who wants Pacioretty, because that cleans up our biggest long-term cap headache. I do this even if it means, for example, getting only a 2nd round pick back instead of a first. A team that wants immediate scoring help will take Alzner if we insist.

I would put Shaw on LTIR until he proves he is healthy, and if healthy he is tradeable for a 3rd pick to a team that wants grit with some proven scoring and being only 26-27 years old.

Take on Spezza, Moulson, Pominville, Kronwall, Colin Wilson - all one year massive contracts. Get second and third round picks for doing this, and find one deal on which we can slip Schlemko back the other way.

Trade Plekanec at the deadline. Get a 2nd or 3rd rounder in all likelihood.

Trade Byron and maybe a B-level prospect for a 2nd rounder to a team that is all in for this year and wants help without spending much cap on it.

If there is a prospect like a former 1st or 2nd rounder who you decide is not breaking through, trade him to a team willing to give you a 3rd round pick and hope that a fresh start with them pays off.

Stay away from the long-term albatrosses like Lucic, Gaborik and Ryan. At one point I toyed with Alzner for Ryan, but now believe Alzner can be moved in a different way without taking on an 8 year cap hit of 2.4M per year if we have to buy out Ryan.

It is possible to get PK Subban or Shea Weber or Patrice Bergeron and other stars in the second round of a draft. It is even more possible to get a strong player a notch below superstar, and we need those too. But if you have only your one 2nd rounder, the odds are less than 30% of getting a good player. If you have 5 or 6 2nd round picks, your chances go WAYYY up, and you also have the ability to trade up on the floor to get a guy you really want in the later first round or early second round.

When looked at this way, the semi-tank that results in finishing bottom 6 or so elevates every one of your draft pick by 10 spots compared to finishing 8th and making the playoffs. That is a solid thing you can count on and benefit from. Tanking on the HOPE you hit a home run on ONE player to be generational is too low-percentage for me as a manager. And it inculcates a loser mentality that sunk teams like Edmonton and the Islanders.

So I keep the following nucleus for the next few years - not all are stars but they can have a ROLE on a good team:

Price (if healthy, otherwise he will retire)
Weber (his role being to solidify the defence and score some key goals)
Petry (his role being to bring offence and provide 2nd pair defence)
Gallagher (bulldog who can also pile up the garbage goals)
Drouin (game breaking talent)
Lehkonen (versatility and scoring ability)
Danault (two-way play and loves to be here, can produce even from bottom 6)
Deslauriers (bring amazing positive energy and push the other bottom 6 players to be better)

I audition the following currently pro players with decent ice time, and they either become nucleus or are traded while still having potential:
Mete
Juulsen
Reilly
Ouellet
Domi
DeLaRose
Scherbak
McCarron
Hudon
Armia
Peca

Guys to audition in Laval to start, with higher than average potential to make it to NHL callup status if they do well:
Lindgren
Valiev
Sklenicka
Moravchik
Rychel
Evans
Bitten
Vejdemo

Tradeable Players right now, in descending value:
Pacioretty
Byron
Plekanec (probably mid-year to deadline deal)
Shaw (once healthy)
Benn
Froese
Schlemko
Alzner

any AHLer not listed above

The medium-term plan is to build results with the nucleus, slowly add more guys to the nucleus who prove their worth in their auditions, give Kotkaniemi and Poehling and the other under-20s time to develop and join when they are ready to take the next step.

Having moved Patches and Byron from a team that was already bottom 4, chances are it will not make the playoffs or even come close this year, but my approach allows for the kids to try to WIN, even if at first it will be hard, instead of hoping to lose and perversely worrying that success will lower the chances of the generational talent falling into our hands.

Whether the team finishes 4th from bottom or 9th from bottom, the strategy of piling up 2nd and 3rd rounders is virtually unaffected.

This approach has a relatively good chance to succeed, but get the GM out of there so someone competent can implement it!


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Post #546 by Not » Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:33 am

Right behind you...figuratively of course :crossarms:
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Post #547 by Twitter bArt » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:04 pm

that is the longest post I have not read since Dog's "topic du jour" phase
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



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Post #548 by mcphee » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:13 pm

He could've just said, be smart bergie.
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Post #549 by Mufasa » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:20 pm

mcphee wrote:He could've just said, be smart bergie.


He actually started a thread with this post, he titled it "A differant approach to rebuilding".
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Post #550 by mcphee » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:23 pm

Mufasa wrote:
mcphee wrote:He could've just said, be smart bergie.


He actually started a thread with this post, he titled it "A differant approach to rebuilding".

we joke, but who are we to question the highly successful.

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