Summer Recess 2: The Search for Curly's Gold

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Post #301 by Hossa » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:46 am

Dorion said all the recent negative headlines about the Senators haven't affected the team in negotiations.

Assistant general manager Randy Lee is facing harassment charges, was traded after Karlsson's wife, Melinda, filed a peace bond because of alleged cyberbullying from Monika Caryk, Hoffman's fiancée, and Senators owner Eugene Melnyk's ownership status remains a topic of speculation. Caryk and Hoffman have denied the allegations and the Senators have said the team is not for sale. Lee has been suspended from his role while he awaits a court date in Buffalo.

"Not one, not a single one (talked about it)," said Dorion. “In our discussions with agents, and in some cases we spoke to particular players, ... everyone seems excited to come to Ottawa. In the interview period, we could talk to players and that's not something that came to our attention."


Everyone seems excited to come to Ottawa, specifically the one depth forward we signed, and the 35 year old AHL goalie we didn't need.
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Post #302 by senate » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:05 pm

Fantastic.

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Post #303 by Germz » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:31 pm

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Post #304 by mayoradamwest » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:30 pm

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Post #305 by Ricard_Persson » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:07 pm

Thankfully they are letting teams sign him to an extension before making the trade. Should make the return as good as it can be as long as they don’t tag Ryan into the trade.

I’m ready for the trade. Time to move on.
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Post #306 by Germz » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:13 pm

I will never be ready. We may never see another player of that calibre in Ottawa again. It makes me sad.

But yes, hopefully it happens quickly. Like a band-aid. I'll mourn for the rest of the summer and then in September I'll get into the training camp excitement. Next season can't be less fun to watch than this year's team. Low expectations and hopefully more young players, Boucher notwithstanding.

God what an awful 12 months it has been to be a Sens fan. Gotta be one of the worst 12 months in NHL fandom history.
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Post #307 by Fruity Pebbles » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:20 pm

It's been a slowly unfolding disaster since last year when it became obvious we weren't making the playoffs. I think we've been relatively fortunate because other teams including within our division have suffered greatly while at our worst we were mediocre outside the playoffs and then playoff bound the next year...

Losing Karlsson is going to hurt a lot but given Melnyk's lack of willingness to spend on the team... we weren't going to win with him. The pain of losing Karlsson is compounded by giving up that first round pick for Matt fucking Duchene but then looking at the O'Reilly return it doesn't seem so horrific and I guess I'm harshly judging Dorion with the benefit of hindsight.

A deal at LeBreton with a new arena can't come soon enough. A new owner would also be nice considering all the stupid remarks and general assholery that Melnyk seems to embody. From the Bill O'Reilly tweet to the threats to move the team ahead of outdoor game... I'm tired of him. He swooped in and "saved" the team but it was on a sweetheart deal and he's worn out his welcome.
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Post #308 by mayoradamwest » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:22 pm

To Colorado:
Karlsson

To Ottawa:
Ottawa first round pick
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Post #309 by MP » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:22 pm

Nice lottery pick action there.
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Post #310 by senate » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:24 pm

I don't think there is moving on. This is going to alienate the fan base for years.

The most annoying part of it is going to be that all year the Toronto media, the TEAM 1200, and Melnyk's cub reporter, Bruce Garrioch, are going to blame the empty arena seats on Ottawa not being a good hockey market.
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Post #311 by senate » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:25 pm

mayoradamwest wrote:To Colorado:
Karlsson

To Ottawa:
Ottawa first round pick


I bet Jack Hughes would pull a Lindros if Ottawa picked him.
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Post #313 by Ismellofhockey » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:22 am

That's bullshit. How can you entertain the idea of trading Karlsson? Unless he asked for a trade, it's a huge mistake. And if he asked for a trade, you shouldn't give up a 20% or better chance at Jacques Hugh for Brady freakin Tkachuk. You shouldn't be trading Hoffman for Mikkel freakin Boedker. What kind of fucked up logic is this? If you trade Karlsson, you'll also have to trade Duchene and good luck getting even half the value you acquired him for. This would be pretty much become a "what not to do" in asset management class for decades to come.
They'll lose so many fans over this. So unless his plan is to move the team to the US, and unless Bettman has shown support for this plan, I can't see how they believe they'll come out on top of a Karlsson trade, especially given the moves they've made so far.
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Post #314 by MP » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:30 am

Our only hope is that the offers from other teams are not enough incentive for Karlsson to move on.
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Post #315 by senate » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:41 am

Why give teams permission to negotiate an extension before a trade is agreed on? If a team successfully negotiates a contract with Karlsson, they are going to have even more leverage against Dorion in trade talks. Is Dorion really this dumb or was this Melnyk's idea?
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Post #316 by Ismellofhockey » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:47 pm

I'm still going to believe that this clusterfuck is too big to be true. No one could possibly make so many poor decisions in such a short amount of time.
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Post #317 by Ricard_Persson » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:28 pm

I disagree. I think you get a bigger package back if teams can negotiate first. If I wasn't sure I could extend Karlsson, I'd never give up as much as I would if I had a deal on paper with him. Pre-negotiation is the way to go, then once a team has him all lined up, you ask a ton from them. There's nothing more painful than being so close to landing him but just not there.


Also, I have no issue with the 10 million opening offer. It's a negotiation. No one says hey, let's start at 12 million per. If Karlsson wants to stay he comes back with a number and they butt heads over it. Simple deal to do. It's apparent they know Karlsson is moving on. I'm sure Tavares saw more than one offer and didn't accept the opener.

And lastly, I think if it's 11 million x 8 years or nothing, I walk from it. Those last 3 years are going to be killer no matter who the owner is. You'll see the last few years of the Tavares deal will be the same, maybe worse since he's not the fastest player today in his prime, and if the league keeps going faster he'll be much less in the last couple years in Toronto. Karlsson, certainly better on his feet and without knee injuries, but you never know about that leg and future wear and tear.

Look at the young guys in Ottawa this week. It's actually a good crop of players for the first time in a decade and a half. In those last 3 years of Karlssons 8 year deal this team will be desperately looking for cash for these guys who are 18-22 years old now, even if they spend near cap.

I make the trade for those reasons, but mostly because Karlsson is probably gone even if you offer 13. It's his call and he looks to be looking elsewhere. Of course, I would have traded him already so I could have used the draft picks this year to further advance things by a year and cut the pain by a year.
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Post #318 by senate » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:19 pm

The total value of the contract is less important than the makeup of the contract. Karlsson, like every other free agent, is going to demand the contract be front loaded and mostly signing bonuses, especially during potential lockout years. I think both of those things are no-goes for Melnyk. Unfortunately, the team is going to run into the same problem when trying to resign Stone and Duchene.
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Post #319 by mayoradamwest » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:03 pm

The last years only ever seem to be an issue at the beginning. I would give Karlsson 12 to stay, he is...was... The team. Phaneuf was moved. We have gaborik. They always game it.

Just awful they had a cup contender and blew it spectacularly
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Post #320 by mayoradamwest » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:04 pm

Should they just trade stone and Duchene?
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Post #321 by mayoradamwest » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:05 pm

Keeping in mind Roy halladay netted nothing then eventually died
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Post #322 by senate » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:10 pm

Alfie throwing shade:

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Post #323 by Ricard_Persson » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:18 pm

Duchene is a tough one. I think he's one of the best centers they've ever had in terms of fit for the current game. Speed and skill. I don't think even with Karlsson gone that the team will be as bad as everyone thinks in two years. I think last year was the worst, this year only slightly better then up from there.

I think they can ice a skilled young team that may not win 45 games but would be fun to watch [just not under the old Boucher, doubt he can change, should have been canned] and I don't mind having Duchene as a #1 center to take that heat off whomever is next in line. Of course, money talks.

To me Mark Stone is untouchable if he wants to be here. The only good thing about losing Karlsson is it becoming Stone's team. It changes the identity and he's always been one of the few players to step up to the plate and speak off the ice, in the good and bad. Alfredsson was good. Stone will be better, Karlsson would make a great "A" on his new team.

Stone's a no excuse guy who spits fire. A great voice to shape young guys into what it takes to play and stay in the game. Still can't believe Spezza was a captain. Pretty much the opposite of Stone.
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Post #325 by ColinM » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:26 pm

senate wrote:https://twitter.com/NicholsOnHockey/status/1014290474633342976


Really there's no reason to rush the Karlsson trade. Puck drop doesn't happen for another 3 months and as a few free agent dominos start to fall Karlsson will be more attractive.
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Post #326 by ColinM » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:29 pm

Ricard_Persson wrote:And lastly, I think if it's 11 million x 8 years or nothing, I walk from it. Those last 3 years are going to be killer no matter who the owner is. You'll see the last few years of the Tavares deal will be the same, maybe worse since he's not the fastest player today in his prime, and if the league keeps going faster he'll be much less in the last couple years in Toronto. Karlsson, certainly better on his feet and without knee injuries, but you never know about that leg and future wear and tear.



I agree that is possible to overvalue Karlsson. Sure he's one the best players to play for Ottawa but he's only won 2 Norris Trophies and recently had foot surgery. It's not a stretch to imagine his contract will feel the same way Bobby Ryan's does in 4 years. We should fall in like with our players not fall in love.
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Post #327 by FH2002 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:42 pm

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Post #329 by Germz » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:50 pm

Pfft at overvaluation. Karlsson is a 4x first team all-star. No one else has done it more than twice in the last decade. He is the best defenseman of his generation, and he's got more drive in one Achilles heel than Bobby Ryan has in his entire body. Whoever pays him will not be sorry.

That said the 2013 Senators made the playoffs without him around for most of it. There are certainly ways to win without him.
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Post #331 by Ricard_Persson » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:03 pm

Bidding war. Best way to do it by letting teams talk to Karlsson. Make it last a week Dorion.

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Post #332 by Ricard_Persson » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:18 pm

And siriusly who doesn’t trade a third overall pick for Erik Karlsson?

Just shut your phone off Pierre and there will be a desperate fax from the stars by Friday.
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Post #333 by Hossa » Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:57 am

Ismellofhockey wrote:That's bullshit. How can you entertain the idea of trading Karlsson? Unless he asked for a trade, it's a huge mistake. And if he asked for a trade, you shouldn't give up a 20% or better chance at Jacques Hugh for Brady freakin Tkachuk. You shouldn't be trading Hoffman for Mikkel freakin Boedker. What kind of fucked up logic is this? If you trade Karlsson, you'll also have to trade Duchene and good luck getting even half the value you acquired him for. This would be pretty much become a "what not to do" in asset management class for decades to come.
They'll lose so many fans over this. So unless his plan is to move the team to the US, and unless Bettman has shown support for this plan, I can't see how they believe they'll come out on top of a Karlsson trade, especially given the moves they've made so far.


Exactly. I've never seen an organization that can so frequently make one move, and then entirely contradict its underlying logic with the next. We are both one of the poorest and worst managed teams in the league, and that's a recipe for total disaster.

In a vacuum, and setting aside that it's probably brought on by the fact Karlsson will not re-sign, I get the pragmatic decision to deal him. If you're going to run a 60M team, it's tough to spend 10-12M on just one player. It's possible if you're highly efficient otherwise, but we have Ryan, Gaborik, Boedker, Smith and so on. We aren't set up to win with him being paid that big a piece of our budget.

But there's also a part of me that is just viscerally angry with the fact Karlsson is gone. He's the best defenceman of his generation, and is so gifted and driven that he's highly likely to be great for a while yet, and it's so disheartening they've fucked this up so badly. It really is.
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Post #334 by mayoradamwest » Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:07 am

The duchene trade in itself was self contradicting. Who knows what they're even trying to do...
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Post #335 by MP » Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:07 am

If Honka is the biggest piece coming back I'm not sure I could cheer for this team any more...
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MP wrote:If Honka is the biggest piece coming back I'm not sure I could cheer for this team any more...


But you've already made it through Havlat for Preissing, Heatley for Michalek, and Spezza for Chiasson. Just embrace the sunk cost fallacy and soldier on.
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Post #337 by MP » Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:03 am

senate wrote:
MP wrote:If Honka is the biggest piece coming back I'm not sure I could cheer for this team any more...


But you've already made it through Havlat for Preissing, Heatley for Michalek, and Spezza for Chiasson. Just embrace the sunk cost fallacy and soldier on.

Hoffman for Boedker almost broke me...
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Post #338 by Hossa » Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:07 am

MP wrote:If Honka is the biggest piece coming back I'm not sure I could cheer for this team any more...


I'd rather hold onto Karlsson and reap whatever benefits come from actually playing him all season, such as reducing the probability of having a black Jack Hughes cloud hanging over this organization for the next 15 years.

Honka is an offensive defenceman who, in his fourth professional season, put up 4 points in 42 NHL games. I'd rather play Jaros and Wolanin.
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Post #339 by ColinM » Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:08 pm

Hossa wrote:
MP wrote:If Honka is the biggest piece coming back I'm not sure I could cheer for this team any more...


I'd rather hold onto Karlsson and reap whatever benefits come from actually playing him all season, such as reducing the probability of having a black Jack Hughes cloud hanging over this organization for the next 15 years.

Honka is an offensive defenceman who, in his fourth professional season, put up 4 points in 42 NHL games. I'd rather play Jaros and Wolanin.


Agreed. We could just as easily sign another Eric Gryba than trade for Karlsson for Honka. Heck at least if we kept Karlsson he'd at least be fun to watch for another year.
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Post #340 by TGR » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:25 am

senate wrote:I don't think there is moving on. This is going to alienate the fan base for years.

The most annoying part of it is going to be that all year the Toronto media, the TEAM 1200, and Melnyk's cub reporter, Bruce Garrioch, are going to blame the empty arena seats on Ottawa not being a good hockey market.


TSN 1200. Get it right.

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Post #341 by AD » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:31 am

senate wrote:https://twitter.com/6thSens/status/999283140286808065

Amazingly, he was actually right. Jimmy Blixt and Justin Murray were removed from the staff page on the Senators website today.

The smallest hockey ops in the NHL gets smaller, just like Melnyk and Dorion promised it would at the town halls.


Its good to cut wasteful spending in these tough economic times. Taxpayer money should not be given away without tight oversight and should be directed to the most important needs of the citizens.
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Post #342 by senate » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:02 pm

Chris Stevenson was on the TEAM 1200 and repeated that the Senators offered Karlsson $10m per, but didn't have the "wiggle room" to match Doughtey's $11m per.
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Post #344 by Hossa » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:27 pm

senate wrote:Chris Stevenson was on the TEAM 1200 and repeated that the Senators offered Karlsson $10m per, but didn't have the "wiggle room" to match Doughtey's $11m per.


I'd love to hear Dorion explain why 10 works but 11 does not.
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Post #345 by mayoradamwest » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:10 pm

Gotta pay Mike McKenna
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Post #346 by mayoradamwest » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:35 pm

One thing I'm learning is that almost every team has a defence prospect set to become better than Karlsson any day now
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Post #347 by Transplanted Caper » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:49 pm

mayoradamwest wrote:One thing I'm learning is that almost every team has a defence prospect set to become better than Karlsson any day now


All those future 2nd pairing, PP specialists don't grow on trees like generational talent, does.
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Post #348 by senate » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:56 pm

Stone filed for arbitration and is no longer eligible for an offer sheet.
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Post #349 by senate » Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:22 pm

Hossa wrote:I'd love to hear Dorion explain why 10 works but 11 does not.


Dorion needs that money for Ceci's next contract.
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Re: Summer Recess 2: The Search for Curly's Gold

Post #350 by senate » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:45 pm

You can tell all the big NHL reporters are on vacation, its been 30 minutes and no one has broke the details yet.


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