The best forward group in Leafs history.

[Philthy Thrillz]

Fuck Babcock

Kappanen JT Marner
Marner with 70 assists

Marleau Matthews Willy
Matthews 50 goals playing shit competition

Hyman Kadri Brown
Shut down line.

AJ vet whatever

[Philthy Thrillz]

Our pp is going to be ridiculous. Ffs Babs, overload the pp1

Tavares and Mathews down low, Marner on the half boards, Mo up top, Marleau in the slot.

Fuck me.

[Philthy Thrillz]

MATTHEWS
JT
KADRI

Any gud pros out there that could sign a one year deal, to truly, once and for all have the deepest center depth in the league?

Who is the favourite as of now?

[Whit Dickman]

How are you typing all of this with only one hand?

[Philthy Thrillz]

Very carefully.

[AGENT ZERO]

If you play the Kadri unit as a shutdown line the opposition can just play their top line more which will limit the minutes of JT and Matthews. The Leafs should just go strength on strength, no team can match their top end plus depth up front. No need to overthink it, the mismatches will happen regardless.

[Whit Dickman]

If anything, it would make more sense to play Tavares with Hyman and Brown since he will bring up the scoring of anyone he plays with.

But I still much prefer stapling Bill to AM, Mitch to JT, and Patty to Kadri. Shuffle the other wingers around and see who fits best where.

[LeafOfBread]

If anything, it would make more sense to play Tavares with Hyman and Brown since he will bring up the scoring of anyone he plays with.

But I still much prefer stapling Bill to AM, Mitch to JT, and Patty to Kadri. Shuffle the other wingers around and see who fits best where.

I don't think Tavares would be too pleased about going from Bailey and Lee to Hyman and Brown. One of the biggest criticisms of NYI was that they could never give him an elite winger.

[Whit Dickman]

JT will be happy if we win hockey games

[LeafOfBread]

JT will be happy if we win hockey games

True but I also don't see a scenario where JT playing without either of Nylander or Marner, or at the very least even a Kapanen or Johnsson helps the team win more games.

[Thomas Malthus]

I'm telling you fellas. No fourth line C, just alternate double shifting Matthews and JT with the fourth line wingers (one of whom will be Johnsson, Brown, or Kapanen. So definitely not plugs).

[AGENT ZERO]

Brown should not be playing over Johnsson and Kapanen.

[Whit Dickman]

Brown should not be playing over Johnsson and Kapanen.

He's defensively responsible and .41 PPG in his career and has scored 20 goals in a season.

I like Kapanen, but he has 10 points to his name (13 if you count the playoffs). That's good for .18 PPG

Hard to say what we have in Johnsson. But he'll be playing left wing anyway.

[Whit Dickman]

I'm telling you fellas. No fourth line C, just alternate double shifting Matthews and JT with the fourth line wingers (one of whom will be Johnsson, Brown, or Kapanen. So definitely not plugs).

With Leivo or maybe Ennis on the 4th line, it would actually be a scoring line. I think it's a great idea. Doubt it will happen though

[paulster]

8 d-men and 10 forwards.

#gamechanger

[Philthy Thrillz]

Brown should not be playing over Johnsson and Kapanen.

Brown did have a bit of a down year last year, but it was still decent. I'm betting it will be a much better year this year.

Those two still need to prove themselves. Right now, Brown is ahead of both.

[AGENT ZERO]

Brown should not be playing over Johnsson and Kapanen.

He's defensively responsible and .41 PPG in his career and has scored 20 goals in a season.

I like Kapanen, but he has 10 points to his name (13 if you count the playoffs). That's good for .18 PPG

Hard to say what we have in Johnsson. But he'll be playing left wing anyway.

The metrics don't support the notion that Brown is an effective defensive player. Every line he played on last season (save for the fourth line) did worst with him on it than without from a shots against, and expected goals stand-point, and he isn't an offensive driver. I prefer Kapanen and Johnsson because they are quicker players who also have strong defensive reputations and better underlying numbers. That said, if the biggest problem this team has is whether to play Brown on the third or fourth line they are obviously in great shape.

As for PPG, it is not fair to compare when one player has largely played in the top 9 with top line ice time, and the other has played exclusively in a 4th line role.

[Philthy Thrillz]

The Goat has not been sacrificed.

[WTF]

The Goat has not been sacrificed.

The Goat abides.

[AGENT ZERO]

If he can find a niche on the pk, and win his fair share of faceoffs he can actually be a useful piece now that we have 3 dominant ES centers.

[Whit Dickman]

Brown should not be playing over Johnsson and Kapanen.

He's defensively responsible and .41 PPG in his career and has scored 20 goals in a season.

I like Kapanen, but he has 10 points to his name (13 if you count the playoffs). That's good for .18 PPG

Hard to say what we have in Johnsson. But he'll be playing left wing anyway.

The metrics don't support the notion that Brown is an effective defensive player. Every line he played on last season (save for the fourth line) did worst with him on it than without from a shots against, and expected goals stand-point, and he isn't an offensive driver. I prefer Kapanen and Johnsson because they are quicker players who also have strong defensive reputations and better underlying numbers. That said, if the biggest problem this team has is whether to play Brown on the third or fourth line they are obviously in great shape.

As for PPG, it is not fair to compare when one player has largely played in the top 9 with top line ice time, and the other has played exclusively in a 4th line role.

Just stfu AZ

[AGENT ZERO]

You STFU

[Whit Dickman]

I have great ideas

[Thomas Malthus]

I have great ideas

"The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence" doing a lot of heavy lifting here, EB.

[mooseOAK]

Brown should not be playing over Johnsson and Kapanen.

He's defensively responsible and .41 PPG in his career and has scored 20 goals in a season.

I like Kapanen, but he has 10 points to his name (13 if you count the playoffs). That's good for .18 PPG

Hard to say what we have in Johnsson. But he'll be playing left wing anyway.

The metrics don't support the notion that Brown is an effective defensive player. Every line he played on last season (save for the fourth line) did worst with him on it than without from a shots against, and expected goals stand-point, and he isn't an offensive driver. I prefer Kapanen and Johnsson because they are quicker players who also have strong defensive reputations and better underlying numbers. That said, if the biggest problem this team has is whether to play Brown on the third or fourth line they are obviously in great shape.

As for PPG, it is not fair to compare when one player has largely played in the top 9 with top line ice time, and the other has played exclusively in a 4th line role.

Please check out the plus minus for Bozak and Van Riemsdyk with Brown instead of Marner.

[clawfirst]

You cant use plus minus Oak. Its a squint rule. They didnt tell you cause they are jerks

[Dynrehab]

Marner-JT
Nylander-Matthews
Marleau-Kadri

Not sure why they’d go away from these pairings.

The wingers can rotate through.