Brian Elliott's 2018-19 Gaping Dirt-Hole.

jester · Post #1451 by **jester** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:56 pm

FlyHigh wrote:I'm curious why they're dumping Manning unless Hextall has decided that Hak can't be trusted with him. Think Manning got overplayed, but you could do a lot worse for a No.7. Wonder if his asking price was too high or if he wants to go to a place where he'll have a guaranteed spot.

Morin is no longer waiver exempt next year, so he will almost certainly be on the roster out of camp.

(And, I see, already answered.)

Hovercraft · Post #1452 by **Hovercraft** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:10 pm

That is not what he said according to others. Filppula might be back, but it would be post July 1 and depending on other moves. Basically, he sounds like Plan B or C.

Yeah I see Bill's interpretation now. Looks like Hex views Flip as a backup if he can't get another C in UFA/trade. That's not so bad then.

FlyHigh wrote:I'm curious why they're dumping Manning unless Hextall has decided that Hak can't be trusted with him. Think Manning got overplayed, but you could do a lot worse for a No.7. Wonder if his asking price was too high or if he wants to go to a place where he'll have a guaranteed spot.

7th D men don't average 18 minutes a night, but Manning is redundant with Gudas and MacD signed for a few more years and Morin/Myers close. For Manning himself, he and his agent should be looking to get him the biggest and longest deal available to him in UFA and that would not be with the Flyers anyway. He will get a deal somewhere as a 3rd pairing d man, probably for 2-3mil per year.

Bill is posting Hex and Hak excerpts from the presser:

All assistant coaches coming back, but roles may change.
Hex wants to add a veteran C and bring in some penalty killing help. Sees C> D>G as the order of priority for adding players.
Hex views Frost as a longshot for next year.
Hak specifically called out Laughton as having a great playoff series.

Ron Hextall very much not closing the door on the possibility of Carter Hart making the NHL next season, but get the sense the odds are still slim.

Dave Isaac

jester · Post #1453 by **jester** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:42 pm

Lappy coming back is indefensible, imo.

Hovercraft · Post #1454 by **Hovercraft** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:48 pm

jester wrote:Lappy coming back is indefensible, imo.

Yeah I agree. Hopefully the line about shifting roles applies to Lappy at least. Hex and Hak both seem to be fooled by a small sample of good PKing to end the year, which also coincided by the team being very disciplined down the stretch out of necessity.

Hexy on Lappy and PK: We have looked hard at that. We aren't happy with where we are. But I thought we got better late in season and pretty good in playoffs. We will look to add in that area over the summer. I am convinced we will be better there next year, and we need to be.

Hak on PK: Take sample sizes. Not good enough early. We looked at a lot of things. Late in season, final 15 games, we were closer to wheere we needed to be, not quite there. In POs, was one of few areas we did well enough overall to win the series.

FlyHigh · Post #1455 by **FlyHigh** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:48 pm

Ah, thanks fellas re: Manning, Morin and waivers. Hope Manning lands somewhere, kind of like VdV in that they both seem like great guys and underdog stories, but they just got overplayed.

The PK comments are baffling; they were 80% against Pitt, that's not great!

GoneFullHextall · Post #1456 by **GoneFullHextall** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:15 pm

Not thrilled with Lappy coming back. hopefully he is given another job in the organization and they bring in a PK coach who has a clue.
If Manning could ever learn to go out and try to more than he can he could be ok as a 6/7. But Hak overused him and many times Mannings bad pinches or positioning got him in trouble.
I agree Flip is not a plan B for bringing back. Think the Flyers may be busy this summer and at the draft. just a guess.

Konecny HypeTrain Captain · Post #1457 by **Konecny HypeTrain Captain** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:56 pm

Any interest in Evander Kane? I think if they move on from Simmonds, Kane would be a great replacement.

Konecny HypeTrain Captain · Post #1458 by **Konecny HypeTrain Captain** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:08 pm

People shitting on G for his comments.

I like a lot of what Hexy has said, I still have a lot of faith in Hexy long term as the GM.

Rogers Pancreas · Post #1459 by **Rogers Pancreas** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:24 pm

Konecny HypeTrain Captain wrote:Any interest in Evander Kane? I think if they move on from Simmonds, Kane would be a great replacement.

Watched him quite a bit in his time here in Buffalo, and the guy has a motor that doesn't quit. Pretty low hockey-IQ, though, and I don't think he's ever played a full season.

Personally, I'd rather take my chances on Simmonds.

Konecny HypeTrain Captain wrote:People shitting on G for his comments.

I like a lot of what Hexy has said, I still have a lot of faith in Hexy long term as the GM.

These comments might end up being a whole lot of nothing depending what happens between now and training camp. But I think, so far at least, Hextall's doing what we expected him to.

jester · Post #1460 by **jester** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:46 pm

Konecny HypeTrain Captain wrote:People shitting on G for his comments.

I like a lot of what Hexy has said, I still have a lot of faith in Hexy long term as the GM.

Partially because Marcus Hayes detached them from context for a column ...

The comments are a case in point of why athletes resort to the safety of cliches. If you offer a bit of uncomfortable honesty, you get raked.

CantSeeColors · Post #1461 by **CantSeeColors** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:49 pm

Where's pronger when you need him to lob a few barbs at a media member?

Hovercraft · Post #1462 by **Hovercraft** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:57 am

Lindblom got 2 goals last night, Sanheim an assist. Myers also had a goal. Phantoms up 2 games to 1.

Probably the strongest the phantoms have been in years.

MiD · Post #1463 by **MiD** » Fri May 04, 2018 9:46 pm

Sanheim received brutal knee on knee. Let's hope for bruise...

Konecny HypeTrain Captain · Post #1464 by **Konecny HypeTrain Captain** » Sat May 05, 2018 1:05 am

Didn't realize Gudas was in the AHL now

Hovercraft · Post #1465 by **Hovercraft** » Sat May 05, 2018 6:59 am

Doesnt look good. Had to be helped up and wasn't putting weight on it.

Konecny HypeTrain Captain · Post #1466 by **Konecny HypeTrain Captain** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:00 pm

So ugh Sanheim got hurt?

Rogers Pancreas · Post #1467 by **Rogers Pancreas** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:34 pm

Maybe if we glued Sanheim, Morin and Myers together we could get a healthy player for more than three games. Full games.

Konecny HypeTrain Captain · Post #1468 by **Konecny HypeTrain Captain** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:31 pm

Getting closer to dropping the fucking puck

chaosof99 · Post #1469 by **chaosof99** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:10 pm

It's 4 AM and I'm sick, but I am awake and ready for some hockey.

Konecny HypeTrain Captain · Post #1470 by **Konecny HypeTrain Captain** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:14 pm

That first line should be magic the whole season. In Provy we trust

Konecny HypeTrain Captain · Post #1471 by **Konecny HypeTrain Captain** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:18 pm

MacDonald pissing me off already just because he's on the ice

Konecny HypeTrain Captain · Post #1472 by **Konecny HypeTrain Captain** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:25 pm

"MacDonald is a good hockey player" Dave Hakstol multiple times

FlyHigh · Post #1473 by **FlyHigh** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:26 pm

AMac gonna AMac, can’t wait for another year of this.

Konecny HypeTrain Captain · Post #1474 by **Konecny HypeTrain Captain** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:29 pm

Also Carter Hart would've stopped it

Hovercraft · Post #1475 by **Hovercraft** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:38 pm

Sanheim to Lindblom on a 2 on 1, not what I expected for the first goal of the year. Nice read by Sanheim to jump up there and Voracek for the initial set up.

Konecny HypeTrain Captain · Post #1476 by **Konecny HypeTrain Captain** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:39 pm

Lindblom's going to have a big year I think

chaosof99 · Post #1477 by **chaosof99** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:51 pm

Kind of lucky we got out of that period with the lead, but I take it. Kind of weird how the Flyers broadcast highlighted MacDonald's involvement in the Vegas goal. They tried to play it off as a forced error, but all I could think was that a good defenseman would have recognized that the window for their change had passed (particularly when they're playing the far side from the bench).

Konecny HypeTrain Captain · Post #1478 by **Konecny HypeTrain Captain** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:55 pm

It reminded me of the scene from Goon when he comes out of the box and decides to stay on the ice just to get scored on. Elliot would've had a better chance to save a breakaway probably

chaosof99 · Post #1479 by **chaosof99** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:19 pm

Didn't expect Hägg to score a goal all season. Nice work joining the rush there.

chaosof99 · Post #1480 by **chaosof99** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:21 pm

lol, they're playing Shinsuke Nakamura's old theme.

Konecny HypeTrain Captain · Post #1481 by **Konecny HypeTrain Captain** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:22 pm

I thought the Knights were supposed to be good? Going to enjoy going to the cup this year

chaosof99 · Post #1482 by **chaosof99** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:25 pm

Konecny HypeTrain Captain wrote:I thought the Knights were supposed to be good? Going to enjoy going to the cup this year

I have them out of the playoffs. I might still be wrong, but last year was a whole lot of surprise factor involved and I think teams will be more prepared for them this year.

chaosof99 · Post #1483 by **chaosof99** » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:41 am

Excellent game by Elliott. Surprisingly lackluster game by Ghost. Can't fault him on the second goal against too much since he was slashed in the hand, but he also had some bad breakout plays that were immediate turnovers as well.

Anyway, two points well earned.

jester · Post #1484 by **jester** » Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:28 am

Definitely going to win the cup!

FlyHigh · Post #1485 by **FlyHigh** » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:54 am

Undefeated with Gritty as well...

DeadPhish · Post #1486 by **DeadPhish** » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:19 am

Rogers Pancreas · Post #1487 by **Rogers Pancreas** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:28 am

chaosof99 wrote:Excellent game by Elliott. Surprisingly lackluster game by Ghost. Can't fault him on the second goal against too much since he was slashed in the hand, but he also had some bad breakout plays that were immediate turnovers as well.

Anyway, two points well earned.

I thought it was a slash to the hands as well, but it was actually a cockshot.The reaction, understandably, was instantaneous. He couldn't even finish the pass.

FlyHigh · Post #1488 by **FlyHigh** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:23 pm

Folin and AMac just complete train wrecks, yikes.

MiD · Post #1489 by **MiD** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:38 pm

why exactly is Folin playing?

DeadPhish · Post #1490 by **DeadPhish** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:49 pm

Who the hell is Christian Frolin?

Rogers Pancreas · Post #1491 by **Rogers Pancreas** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:55 pm

Hetall's record in free agency is looking worse by the year.

FlyHigh · Post #1492 by **FlyHigh** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:11 pm

Lmao what a way to get your first.

DeadPhish · Post #1493 by **DeadPhish** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:40 pm

Elliot’s definitely keeping them in the game.

JLHockeyKnight · Post #1494 by **JLHockeyKnight** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:13 pm

MiD wrote:why exactly is Folin playing?

Hakstol: Veteran presence.

Rogers Pancreas · Post #1495 by **Rogers Pancreas** » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:38 pm

Oh, JVR, you are quickly entering Gomez territory over here.

DeadPhish · Post #1496 by **DeadPhish** » Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:21 pm

Couturier is an Alternate Captain now.

DeadPhish · Post #1497 by **DeadPhish** » Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:48 pm

2 goals on their first 3 shots. Brutal.

Hovercraft · Post #1498 by **Hovercraft** » Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:52 pm

Macdonald in mid season form already

FlyHigh · Post #1499 by **FlyHigh** » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:08 pm

Really awful coverage by Ghost there, not great.

Hovercraft · Post #1500 by **Hovercraft** » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:12 pm

Yeah Ghost has been awful these first couple of games. I kinda wish Hak didn't play him with Provorov but our D core doesn't give many options.

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