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Post #2401 by Craig » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:19 pm

I also like them in theory. Everyone seems to like them in theory, but I don't know anyone who actually has one.
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Post #2402 by Murphy » Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:27 pm

AD wrote:I like them in theory.

You have natural gaz hearing?

Yup.
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Post #2403 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:34 pm

Eleven-hundred PSI of natural gas rattling through your ear pipelines must be deafening.
Also, let's keep this thread about Galchenyuk's on-ice performance, development and value and NOT bring in his personal life or race.
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Post #2404 by MP » Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:36 pm

Murphy wrote:Anyone have any experience with Tankless water heaters? Ours tank is 20 years old and we're thinking of going tankless.

My thoughts are that they are best for new builds or small houses with few appliances, as you want to plumb a proper manifold and run small diameter piping to each source/appluance to keep the overall pipe sizes small.
That way you waste much less water. Otherwise they work well.
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Post #2405 by PEli » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:43 pm

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Post #2406 by PEli » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:46 pm

Tankless water heaters are great. Do it.
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Post #2407 by Craig » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:49 pm

MP wrote:
Murphy wrote:Anyone have any experience with Tankless water heaters? Ours tank is 20 years old and we're thinking of going tankless.

My thoughts are that they are best for new builds or small houses with few appliances, as you want to plumb a proper manifold and run small diameter piping to each source/appluance to keep the overall pipe sizes small.
That way you waste much less water. Otherwise they work well.


They waste water? Like compared to tanks, or just compared to other tankless systems with narrower pipes?
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Post #2408 by MP » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:15 pm

Craig wrote:
MP wrote:
Murphy wrote:Anyone have any experience with Tankless water heaters? Ours tank is 20 years old and we're thinking of going tankless.

My thoughts are that they are best for new builds or small houses with few appliances, as you want to plumb a proper manifold and run small diameter piping to each source/appluance to keep the overall pipe sizes small.
That way you waste much less water. Otherwise they work well.


They waste water? Like compared to tanks, or just compared to other tankless systems with narrower pipes?

So if you like my house and the taps and appliance tee off a large 1" header. So in order to get hot water you gotta drain and resupply that header with hot water before you see it, you can do it with a tank less but you need a much bigger unit adding cost and reducing your pay back. But if you're designing a new system, you make a manifold and supply like a 1/2 inch line directly to where you need it. Wasting less water, using a smaller heater.
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Post #2409 by Craig » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:16 pm

I mean, isn't that the same for tank and tankless systems?
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Post #2410 by MP » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:17 pm

Craig wrote:I mean, isn't that the same for tank and tankless systems?

Yeah, I'm comparing a proper tankless system to a retrofit.
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Post #2411 by MP » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:19 pm

The other factor is most people will use more hot water if there is no end in the supply.
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Post #2412 by Craig » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:19 pm

Oh, sure, I get ya. With wider pipes there's more water to heat each time, which might necessitate a bigger unit. Costs more.
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Post #2413 by MP » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:20 pm

Craig wrote:Oh, sure, I get ya. With wider pipes there's more water to heat each time, which might necessitate a bigger unit. Costs more.

The payback for me wasn't worth the investment, something like 8 to 10 years VS a tank unit.
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Post #2414 by Murphy » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:26 am

I'm getting a quote Monday on an install for a Tankless. So we'll see where this goes. They already gave me a price for a tank (with install) at around 1.6K$.
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Post #2415 by AD » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:34 am

1.6k!!
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Post #2416 by AD » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:34 am

What the fuck?
Is it made out of gold?
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Post #2417 by Murphy » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:45 am

The quote for the tankless right now is 4.4k$.
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Post #2418 by Craig » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:49 am

Both those estimates feel a little high, unless there's extra work I don't know about.
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Post #2419 by Murphy » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:52 am

Yeah, it’s only the first quote I’ve gotten from the company Costco uses.

I’ll have a better idea with the full quote. I’ll be calling a couple other companies too but knowing Costco’s reputation I think this may be closer to the lower end.
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Post #2420 by Craig » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:09 pm

Tank I would think like, 1200-1300. Tankless maybe a little over 3? Been a bit since I looked into it.
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Post #2421 by Murphy » Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:25 pm

Yeah, the tankless isn't worth it and we don't have the room for the venting it needs.
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Post #2422 by golustp » Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:05 am

i think as the weeds start going away and the lawn starts to thicken up, I'll start raking compost, sharp sand and topsoil into the low spots each week.
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Post #2423 by PEli » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:56 am

I did a lot of topdressing this year on Labour Day weekend after I aerated and overseeded. Everything worked out really well except for the insane amount of weeds I introduced to the lawn. And it's 100% because of the compost. Stay away from it for two reasons.

- It's just going to reintroduce all of the weeds you've worked to get rid of. Mainly dandelion but I'm sure I'll see crabgrass pop up late Spring now.

- It's all organic matter so it'll just decompose anyway...wasting space you could have used soil and sand for.

If you have an area on your property where you can dig up some of your own soil, do that. Behind a shed or something. Still use the sand. That's a great way to start the topdressing. I think you'll see your grass will do better in the soil it's already used to and you should be less likely to introduce undesirables.

Just a suggestion.
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Post #2424 by MP » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:45 pm

Never put weeds in your compost.
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Post #2425 by clawfirst » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:26 pm

Thats not how it happens mp. Those seed just kinda float in, in the air...cause thats what that plant does and why we cant kill em without killing fish
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Post #2426 by PEli » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:03 pm

I don't compost so the weeds didn't come from me. But the stuff from the store isn't heat treated to the same level as garden soil from the store. So yeah, I should have known better.

Not as bad as the free compost from the city though!
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Post #2427 by PEli » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:07 pm

Maybe next year I will go fully sustainable. I'll go on kale, whole eggs, Aussie Bites and raw oatmeal and just shit in a Home Depot bucket for a month. I bet the wife would never even miss the food processor.
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Post #2428 by Craig » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:52 pm

I have spare buckets, if you want one.
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Post #2429 by PEli » Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:27 am

You say you have spare buckets and only offer me one.
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Post #2430 by Craig » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:43 pm

Don't be greedy. What if someone else needs a bucket and I already gave all 7 of my spares to you?
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Post #2431 by PEli » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:04 pm

If I'm 7 buckets deep in my own waste, it's been a successful year and I will be thinking of only myself.

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