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Post #10351 by jester » Thu May 17, 2018 9:17 pm

Dog wrote:I assume he was coached to try to flip the comment around. Then again, I keep looking for patterns in their random stupidity.


Bolton is a dangerous ideologue, but he knows the substance of what he's talking about. Trump literally has no idea, and when he tries to fake it, it's obvious.
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Post #10352 by Dog » Thu May 17, 2018 9:50 pm

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Dog wrote:I assume he was coached to try to flip the comment around. Then again, I keep looking for patterns in their random stupidity.


Bolton is a dangerous ideologue, but he knows the substance of what he's talking about. Trump literally has no idea, and when he tries to fake it, it's obvious.


I’ve been puzzled by Bolton’s Libya comment. If not a brain fart, what’s his angle? Is he trying to derail talks?
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Post #10354 by PredsFan77 » Thu May 17, 2018 10:35 pm

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Post #10356 by senate » Thu May 17, 2018 11:37 pm

Do you think that Jones' wife was having it one meal at a time or taking all ten meals at the same time?
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Post #10357 by jester » Thu May 17, 2018 11:46 pm

Dog wrote:
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Dog wrote:I assume he was coached to try to flip the comment around. Then again, I keep looking for patterns in their random stupidity.


Bolton is a dangerous ideologue, but he knows the substance of what he's talking about. Trump literally has no idea, and when he tries to fake it, it's obvious.


I’ve been puzzled by Bolton’s Libya comment. If not a brain fart, what’s his angle? Is he trying to derail talks?


He's a crazy fucking hardliner and very willing to resort to coercive force (his views on Iran are very instructive here). The fact that he is literally impossible to get through a confirmation hearing even with a GOP majority is telling.

But he isn't stupid, and unlike some of the misfits in Trump's admin has a great deal of government experience.
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Post #10358 by senate » Fri May 18, 2018 12:52 am

Being an ultranationalist chicken-hawk is John Bolton's brand. It's what got him into the Bush Jr administration; it is what got speaking gigs and pundit work after being pushed out of the Bush Jr administration; it is what got him hired into the Trump administration; and it is what will get him speaking gigs and pundit work after he is pushed out of the Trump administration.
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Post #10359 by Big Susf » Fri May 18, 2018 5:04 am

He loves the MEK death cult. All the ingredients are in Trumps cabinet for an Iran war.
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Post #10360 by mooseOAK » Fri May 18, 2018 9:16 am

PredsFan77 wrote:id like to hear more about the anal rape via meals

Let’s just say he regrets ordering the rotisserie chicken.
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Post #10361 by Retardé S » Sat May 19, 2018 4:37 pm



America really needed this.
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Post #10362 by WTF » Sat May 19, 2018 5:46 pm

mooseOAK wrote:
PredsFan77 wrote:id like to hear more about the anal rape via meals

Let’s just say he regrets ordering the rotisserie chicken.


Asking for the tomahawk steak was a huge mistake.
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Post #10363 by TittiesNBeer » Sat May 19, 2018 6:05 pm

Retardé S wrote:https://twitter.com/AudreyWSBTV/status/997821190113775616

America really needed this.
Shes wrong. The world needed it
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Post #10364 by Big Susf » Sat May 19, 2018 6:29 pm

A revolution was fought so we did not have to care about the British Crown. I'd rather watch our pals up in Canada.
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Post #10365 by PredsFan77 » Sat May 19, 2018 7:43 pm

we'll have to wait for McDavid to get married before they have their next royal wedding. (Or of course Crosby comes out of the closet and weds some other fag)
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Post #10366 by senate » Sat May 19, 2018 7:49 pm

Do you guys think that Congress will order Markle arrested or just strip her of her citizenship for violating the Constitution by accepting a title of nobility?
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Post #10367 by senate » Sat May 19, 2018 7:50 pm

Just kidding, Americans don't read their Constitution outside the gun bit.
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Post #10368 by PredsFan77 » Sat May 19, 2018 8:00 pm

since trump didnt get invited to the wedding, expect the ambassador to make a formal request for her passport in the morning.
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Post #10369 by PredsFan77 » Sat May 19, 2018 8:17 pm

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Post #10370 by Big Susf » Sat May 19, 2018 8:31 pm

Predo, your family died fighting the British so you could marry your cousin. I did not expect you to be so anti Royal British Crown. Shame on you.
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Post #10371 by PredsFan77 » Sat May 19, 2018 8:57 pm

a part of my family was still living in england during the reign of queen victoria so they're relative newbies to this here country.
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Post #10372 by Dog » Sat May 19, 2018 9:38 pm

Offseason Shredder wrote:A revolution was fought so we did not have to care about the British Crown. I'd rather watch our pals up in Canada.


We’re all still Her Majesty’s loyal subjects up here.

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Post #10373 by chicpea » Sat May 19, 2018 9:43 pm

Dog wrote:
Offseason Shredder wrote:A revolution was fought so we did not have to care about the British Crown. I'd rather watch our pals up in Canada.


We’re all still Her Majesty’s loyal subjects up here.

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Post #10374 by chicpea » Sat May 19, 2018 11:03 pm

Companies connected to Mr. Zamel also have ties to Russia. One of his firms had previously worked for oligarchs linked to Mr. Putin, including Oleg V. Deripaska and Dmitry Rybolovlev, who hired the firm for online campaigns against their business rivals.


This paragraph I found of interest. Mr Zamel is someone I would like to know more about.
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Post #10375 by jester » Sun May 20, 2018 9:44 am

chicpea wrote:
Companies connected to Mr. Zamel also have ties to Russia. One of his firms had previously worked for oligarchs linked to Mr. Putin, including Oleg V. Deripaska and Dmitry Rybolovlev, who hired the firm for online campaigns against their business rivals.


This paragraph I found of interest. Mr Zamel is someone I would like to know more about.


I'm sure folks are digging presently.

Honestly, it will be somewhat surprising if Don Jr. emerges unscathed from this thing, right? I'm also curious what Trump's reelection campaign will look like given how compromised his most prominent surrogates (i.e., his family) are now. More Kelly Anne!
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Post #10376 by Big Susf » Sun May 20, 2018 12:21 pm



Everything is just Hamas now. Its the biggest political party in Gaza. The trash man is technically Hamas. I doubt the school specifically had a moment of silence for Hamas but Israeli media is on it too.

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,734 ... 11,00.html
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Post #10377 by Craig » Sun May 20, 2018 7:56 pm

Did Hamas die? Even in imagination land, how does that make any sense?
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Post #10378 by chicpea » Sun May 20, 2018 10:47 pm

Reports have Trump getting very nervous about meeting with Kim and getting embarrassed. He was apparently very surprised that the North put out that press release last week calling Bolton a perverted dog-fucker and rejecting unilateral disarmament.
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Post #10379 by jester » Sun May 20, 2018 11:28 pm

I mean, really, who could have predicted that North Korea was going to balk at the idea of giving up its nukes? Probably deserves some slack on that one.

I'm dubious of how nervous he really is ... but I fully expect him to agree to a deal significantly below the threshold established by the Iran deal, which he will then sell as a wonderful agreement. There are a lot of reasons his crap with the Iran deal defies logic, but probably the most important from his administration's perspective is that it will make selling anything short of complete removal of North Korea's nukes hard to rationalize beyond the hardline Trump supporters.
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Post #10380 by PredsFan77 » Mon May 21, 2018 12:27 am

Nervous because indictments coming out this week fellas. BIG ONES
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Post #10381 by senate » Mon May 21, 2018 1:16 am

Who would have thought that North Korea wouldn't concede everything in return for the promise of maybe getting something in the future? This is all Denis Rodman's fault for give Kim a copy of The Art of the Deal.

The South has been advocating a more traditional confidence-building approach, in which concessions by the North result in a gradual lifting of sanctions. But Mr. Trump has said he will not repeat that technique, because it led to failure by his four immediate predecessors.

Until now, administration officials have been saying they expect Mr. Kim to agree to denuclearization at the Singapore summit meeting and to set a schedule for a fast down payment over the next six months, which would involve turning over some number of nuclear weapons, closing production facilities and allowing inspectors to range the country.

Those who have dealt with North Korea most intensively say that expectation will have to be scaled back if Mr. Trump expects success.


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Post #10383 by jester » Mon May 21, 2018 10:37 am

Dog wrote:These ads. Seriously, wtf ?

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... new-level/


Shit rolls downhill ... and Trump is Trump.
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Post #10384 by mooseOAK » Mon May 21, 2018 11:28 am

Scary in two ways. That these guys would round up people or voters thinking that they will and voting for them.
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Post #10385 by senate » Mon May 21, 2018 1:11 pm

I think I know how the conservative media is going to distract the Republican base for the next few years.

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Post #10386 by jester » Mon May 21, 2018 2:38 pm

Pompeo's bluster would be hilarious if it wasn't so serious.
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Post #10388 by jester » Mon May 21, 2018 5:52 pm

Clown prince.
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Post #10389 by chicpea » Mon May 21, 2018 7:09 pm

I don't recall the FBI informant, Stefan Halper, being named. Is that new?
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Supplement:

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tax evasion - always the tax evasion that does them in
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Post #10394 by Big Susf » Tue May 22, 2018 6:49 pm

chicpea wrote:I don't recall the FBI informant, Stefan Halper, being named. Is that new?


Its because the NYTs buried the lede Chico. Lots of us missed that it was Stefan Halper. His assistant even went to Papadopolous as one "Ezra Turk" to try and chummy it up with him using sexual advances to gain insight on the campaign.


John Brennan’s Plot to Infiltrate the Trump Campaign
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oh llook israeli collusion

Israeli Intelligence Company Formed Venture With Trump Campaign Firm Cambridge Analytica

WASHINGTON—A company owned by Joel Zamel, an Israeli entrepreneur whose work has drawn the scrutiny of special counsel Robert Mueller, formed a strategic partnership with a data firm for President Donald Trump’s campaign in a joint bid to win business from the U.S. government and other clients after the 2016 election, according to people familiar with the matter.

The Psy-Group, one of Mr. Zamel’s firms, signed a memorandum of understanding with Cambridge Analytica LLC, a digital media firm that helped propel Mr. Trump to the presidency, these people said. Facebook Inc. in March suspended Cambridge over allegations that it improperly harvested the data of millions of Facebook users, accusations that in part led to the firm’s closure earlier this month.

The Dec. 14, 2016, memorandum, as described to The Wall Street Journal, outlines a partnership whereby the two firms could cooperate on a case-by-case basis to provide intelligence and social-media services, or pitch business to an array of clients.

A person familiar with the work of Psy-Group, a private intelligence firm, said the partnership was intended in part to help win government contracts—something that Cambridge and its parent company, SCL Group, were aggressively seeking to do as their allies in the Trump administration took power, according to people familiar with the efforts.

The existence of the memorandum is an example of how the president’s allies sought to gain entry and influence in Washington after the election.

SCL Group won a $500,000 contract from the State Department starting in February 2017 aimed at providing “target audience research,” according to federal records. No government contracts have been awarded to the Psy-Group, according to public records, though not all government contracts—for example, in the arena of intelligence and foreign policy—are publicly disclosed.

A spokesman for SCL and for Cambridge Analytica didn’t respond to requests to comment.

Marc Mukasey, a lawyer for Mr. Zamel, said his client “had nothing to do with Cambridge Analytica.” He has previously said investigators have told him Mr. Zamel isn’t a target of the Mueller investigation.

A person familiar with the memo between Cambridge and Psy-Group, which was first reported by Bloomberg, said it was signed without Mr. Zamel’s involvement. It was unclear whether Mr. Zamel was aware of the deal at the time it was reached.

Mr. Zamel has met with Mr. Mueller’s investigators, who appear to have expanded their inquiries to questions about the influence of a Gulf monarchy during the 2016 election, the Journal has previously reported. Mr. Mueller is investigating whether Trump associates colluded with Russia in the 2016 U.S. election. Mr. Trump denies colluding with Russia, and Moscow denies that it meddled in the election.

In the months before the 2016 election, Mr. Zamel met with Donald Trump Jr. , Mr. Trump’s eldest son, at Trump Tower along with George Nader, a top adviser to the crown prince of the United Arab Emirates, to discuss an offer from Messrs. Zamel and Nader to help boost the campaign, the Journal has previously reported. Mr. Zamel is said to be close to top officials in the U.A.E.

Cambridge Analytica earlier this month announced it was shutting down its operations, along with its U.S. and U.K. affiliates SCL Group and SCL Elections. The firm is liquidating its assets, an administrator for the firm said Tuesday.

Cambridge Analytica faced mounting legal fees in the U.K.’s investigation of the data firm and was rapidly losing clients, according to people familiar with the matter. In March, it suspended its chief executive, Alexander Nix, after undercover journalists at British broadcaster Channel 4 released a video that depicted him describing campaign tactics he said the company had used, among them entrapping political opponents with bribes and sex.

In the video, Mr. Nix said Cambridge Analytica used Israeli companies in its campaign efforts. “We use some British companies, we use some Israeli companies,” he said. “From Israel. Very effective in intelligence gathering.”

Mr. Nix has said he regretted his role in the video, and Cambridge Analytica has said it didn’t use the tactics he described.

One person familiar with the work of both firms said Mr. Nix in the video appeared to be referring to Psy-Group, which does work that tracks closely with Mr. Nix’s description. The intelligence firm’s website says the company’s motto is “shape reality.”

Some of Psy-Group’s work involves setting up “honey traps”—real-world scenarios where people are caught saying embarrassing or incriminating things to gain leverage over them—sometimes using the promise of a romantic relationship as part of the approach, which often begins online, according to people familiar with the firm’s operations.

“The general aim is to get their trust, take that relationship to the next level,” said one person who was familiar with the company’s work. “In many cases, they are able to take that relationship offline. Then they can meet in real life.”

After the 2016 election, Cambridge Analytica aggressively pitched federal agencies, often partnering with larger corporations, according to a person familiar with the efforts.

A wave of negative publicity over the course of 2017 slowed the company’s efforts. When news first emerged last fall that Mr. Nix had contacted WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange during the election, some companies told Cambridge Analytica they no longer wanted its involvement in pitching the government, the person said. Recent revelations over the company’s alleged use of Facebook data brought about “the biggest drop-off,” the person said.

Sometime around 2014, Mr. Zamel began making contacts in the U.A.E., becoming close to the national security adviser there, people familiar with the matter said. A Zamel-owned consulting firm, Wikistrat, which aimed to crowdsource expert opinions on geopolitical problems for corporate clients and governments, conducted war-games scenarios for the government of the U.A.E., though many of the company’s employees remained in the dark about who they were working for, they said. Former employees say that it became increasingly clear that the U.A.E. government was one of the firm’s major clients.

At some point during this time period, Mr. Zamel also launched Psy-Group. In early 2016, the firm began using a London-based headhunter to look for a head of sales—possibly based in the U.S., according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

The head of sales position was marked “confidential,” and a pitch in the documents described Psy-Group as a firm that is “founded and is managed by an experienced group of former high-ranking officers from elite units of some of the world’s most renowned intelligence agencies.”

“Their team has a proven track record in information gathering, analysis, research, special intelligence operations and technology in the physical and cyber domains,” the document said.

Mr. Zamel’s interest in running Wikistrat began to wane around the same time. The firm had one year of profitability, according to one person familiar with its balance sheets, and in 2015 had approximately $6 million in gross revenues, the person said. Mr. Zamel put Wikistrat up for sale in 2015, sending a prospectus to a number of companies looking for a buyer, according to a person who has seen the document.

The person said Mr. Zamel was seeking about $25 million for the company. It hasn’t found a buyer.


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Post #10397 by senate » Wed May 23, 2018 12:32 pm

Cohen was stabbing Putin in the back!

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Post #10398 by Dog » Wed May 23, 2018 12:40 pm

My sense is that this is all well and good, but as long as Trump can pardon Cohen he’s unlikely to flip. We need stuff tying Trump himself into shit.

Or, you know, wait two more years. Whichever comes first.
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Post #10399 by senate » Wed May 23, 2018 1:06 pm

And those two more years will be spent in perpetual twitter fights:

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Re: Murrica: fuck yeah

Post #10400 by Dog » Wed May 23, 2018 2:27 pm

What a time to be alive!

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