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Post #3601 by AGENT ZERO » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:34 am

I know, it's more of a general reply to all of the comments I have read that make it seem like Kawhi to LA is a done deal. Kawhi is a very unique guy with a really tough background story, I really believe that if a team traded for him and made him feel like apart of a family, and worked with him that he would stay. He seems to value those things alot more than most athletes.
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Post #3602 by Balki Bartokomous » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:04 pm

AGENT ZERO wrote:I know, it's more of a general reply to all of the comments I have read that make it seem like Kawhi to LA is a done deal. Kawhi is a very unique guy with a really tough background story, I really believe that if a team traded for him and made him feel like apart of a family, and worked with him that he would stay. He seems to value those things alot more than most athletes.


PG seemed like he was a lock to go to LA as well and a year convinced him to stay. If you have a chance to get an MVP you do it.
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Post #3603 by LeafOfBread » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:31 pm

The whispers are getting stronger...
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Post #3604 by Balki Bartokomous » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:12 pm

But I dunno if we should do it. I'm getting nervous with the guy's injury. I think we may get Mike Sirotka'd on this.
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Post #3605 by AGENT ZERO » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:54 pm

I would actually start watching the Raptors if they landed Kawhi, but I still doubt it happens.
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Post #3606 by Balki Bartokomous » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:25 pm

Drums are getting louder and louder yo.

Here's why I don't like it.

You get him, he's hurt most of the year then leaves. Now you've dealt DeRozan who has more value than Lowry does as an expiring next year, you've lost OG and Siakam or at least one of them, and picks. You're stuck rebuilding, but your most marketable asset is Lowry, he's 33, deal about to expire, you're not going to get shit for him. So now you're without OG/Siakam or both, getting nothing for Lowry, probably out a first, and your rebuild is seriously fucked up.

I just don't like it.
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Post #3607 by vf » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:58 pm

Fuck their rebuild, the club is in win now mode. You cannot win without MVP level talent on the club. To land that talent you have to gamble.
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Post #3608 by Balki Bartokomous » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:00 pm

Reminds me of the Nets of 2002 03. Had an MVP like Kidd, couldn't beat the beasts of the West. Like I said, I don't like it.
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Post #3609 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:35 pm

If they keep OG and deal Derozan this deal would be terrific.
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Post #3610 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:03 am

At this point it seems like they're only competing against themselves.
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Post #3611 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:49 am

Welp, it's happening and should be done today. Bye DeMar. Him and Gay gonna be teammates again.
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Post #3612 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:11 am

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Post #3613 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:15 am

AGENT ZERO wrote:I would actually start watching the Raptors if they landed Kawhi, but I still doubt it happens.


This aged poorly

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Post #3614 by LeafOfBread » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:18 am

What a summer for Toronto sports.
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Post #3615 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:19 am

Well.......we still have to watch the Jays, and this dude don't even wanna come here. So this should be fun.
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Post #3616 by LeafOfBread » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:25 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:Well.......we still have to watch the Jays, and this dude don't even wanna come here. So this should be fun.

He needs to have a conversation with Lowry
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Post #3618 by LeafOfBread » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:38 am

My fear is that even if he plays, he gets a minor injury and then sits on the shelf for the entire season.
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Post #3619 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:40 am

There's a lot to be nervous about. Superstars leave Toronto. Ujiri has put his career in Toronto on the line here.
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Post #3620 by AGENT ZERO » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:51 am

Next year is going to be so fun to watch Toronto sports.
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Post #3621 by AGENT ZERO » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:51 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:There's a lot to be nervous about. Superstars leave Toronto. Ujiri has put his career in Toronto on the line here.


No, he hasn't. This core was done, and Demar was a year away from 30. This was a calculated gamble, and in the event he leaves we at least have cap space and a clear path towards a rebuild.
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Post #3622 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:55 am

It doesn't matter, it's all about optics. If they take a step back, and Kawhi barely plays then Ujiri is toast. Especially if there's an unprotected first going to San Antone.
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Post #3623 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:56 am

This made me laugh tho

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Post #3624 by AGENT ZERO » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:57 am

vf wrote:Fuck their rebuild, the club is in win now mode. You cannot win without MVP level talent on the club. To land that talent you have to gamble.


I don't agree about fucking the rebuild, but frankly this rebuild isn't that much farther along with what we have now. The only chance this club has at remaining competitive is if Kahwi stays, those other guys aren't difference makers.
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Post #3625 by AGENT ZERO » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:58 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:It doesn't matter, it's all about optics. If they take a step back, and Kawhi barely plays then Ujiri is toast. Especially if there's an unprotected first going to San Antone.


I think the optics are fantastic for Ujiri. Doing nothing would have been viewed more harshly IMO.
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Post #3626 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:00 am

Disagree. You may not think highly of him, but a lot of people do of DeMar. I think James leaving was the best thing to happen to the the Raptors. Is this team better than the Celtics right now?
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Post #3627 by AGENT ZERO » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:01 am

LeafOfBread wrote:My fear is that even if he plays, he gets a minor injury and then sits on the shelf for the entire season.


Kawhi has been a model professional for his entire career. It would be extremely out of character for him to do this. Last year he sat out because he felt he couldn't play and that his injury was misdiagnosed, that is very different from what you are suggesting.
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Post #3628 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:02 am

Alright, it's done. Leonard and Green for Poetl, DeRozan and a protected 2019 first. Now the optics are magnificent for Toronto.
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Post #3629 by AGENT ZERO » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:02 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:Disagree. You may not think highly of him, but a lot of people do of DeMar. I think James leaving was the best thing to happen to the the Raptors. Is this team better than the Celtics right now?


This was the best return you were going to get for Demar who expired in a year, and was going to be 30.
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Post #3630 by AGENT ZERO » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:02 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:Alright, it's done. Leonard and Green for Poetl, DeRozan and a protected 2019 first. Now the optics are magnificent for Toronto.


Wow they kept Siakam and OG. Great trade.
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Post #3631 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:07 am

The clock starts now. Time for the six to show him some love and how you can make oodles of money playing here.
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Post #3632 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:11 am

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Post #3633 by AGENT ZERO » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:13 am

Judging by the price it's pretty obvious that Kawhi to LA has legs and is not just media driven. That said, I still believe that no one including Kawhi knows for sure what he will do in a year. We all have plans and intentions, but that shit changes over the course of a year. Who knows, maybe Kawhi really grows to love Toronto.
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Post #3634 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:15 am

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Post #3636 by AGENT ZERO » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:27 am

It's really cool that we traded a below average defender for the best defender in the NBA (and by a wide margin).
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Post #3637 by Craig » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:33 am

Danny Green is a great defender too. Their perimeter D will be miles better next year.
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Post #3638 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:34 am

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Post #3639 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:56 am

Guys, peep. The Raptors lost because they traded DeMar. He stayed therefore should never have been dealt.

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Post #3640 by AGENT ZERO » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:03 am

I think it will be hilarious if Kawhi re-signs after all of this talk that he doesn't even want to be here.
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Post #3641 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:08 am

I believe in this city. Everyone who comes here loves it. Kyle thought he was gon' do his year and bounce. They all come here with preconceived notions and then they fall in love.
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Post #3642 by AGENT ZERO » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:10 am

When the Raptors go small, they can roll out the following lineup:

Lowry
Green
Leonard
OG
Ibaka

That is a stupid good defensive lineup, and everyone can stretch the floor.

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