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Re: Maybe a joke about Bill Morneau

Post #4301 by Dog » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:28 pm

France, as always, will be the tall but skinny and lanky kid nobody will want to pick for their team.
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Post #4302 by AD » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:29 pm

China?
Russia is with us that I know.
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Post #4303 by AD » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:29 pm

Wait... when you say us... who do you mean?
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Post #4304 by Dog » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:33 pm

Russia? Russia is with them. Ethno-Nationalist-Matcho appeal > old alliances. We’re with the subversive american deep state, working the resistance from the inside.
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Post #4305 by Slick Nick » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:40 pm

Dog wrote:
AD wrote:Liberal Shia axis vs ethno-nationalist sunni jews.


Pretty sure Germany will be on our side this time. China too.

Authoritarian-Liberal-Shias vs Ethno-Nationalist-Fundamentalist-Sunni-Jews.


When was the last time Germany was on the winning side?

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Post #4306 by Dog » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:49 pm

Franco-Prussian war?

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Post #4307 by Slick Nick » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:56 pm

Dog wrote:Franco-Prussian war?

:dunno:


And where's the Prussian capital city now?

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Post #4308 by AD » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:05 pm

Dog wrote:Russia? Russia is with them. Ethno-Nationalist-Matcho appeal > old alliances. We’re with the subversive american deep state, working the resistance from the inside.


Uhm. No. Russia is with us. Iran. Syrian gov't. Hizb'Allah.

Us.
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Re: Maybe a joke about Bill Morneau

Post #4309 by Dog » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:05 pm

Slick Nick wrote:
Dog wrote:Franco-Prussian war?

:dunno:


And where's the Prussian capital city now?

:wink:


That’s cause they were squeezed on two fronts by large powers. Sorta like Russia between Germany and China.

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Post #4310 by Dog » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:10 pm

AD wrote:
Dog wrote:Russia? Russia is with them. Ethno-Nationalist-Matcho appeal > old alliances. We’re with the subversive american deep state, working the resistance from the inside.


Uhm. No. Russia is with us. Iran. Syrian gov't. Hizb'Allah.

Us.


No, Russia is with the Ethno-Nationalist-Matchomens. That Trumps former alliances. Saudis are with Israel, for God/Allah/Yahweh’s sake!

If this is a problem, don’t let the door hit you on the way out!
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Post #4311 by Slick Nick » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:12 pm

Why would China be on your side?

Turkey and Pakistan changed sides... you're in bad shape doggo.
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Post #4312 by Dog » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:35 pm

Slick Nick wrote:Why would China be on your side?


Well, the’re not going to be on their side. Enemy of my enemy.

And yes, we’re getting creamed. We need the deep state to win the revolution in the states. Otherwise, we’re fucked. May as well be an ethno-nationalist-fundamentalist-fucktard.
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Post #4313 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:35 pm

Russia is with anyone who will so much as smile at them.
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Post #4314 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:37 pm

mayoradamwest wrote:The USA doing nothing is rather fitting ...


The whole of Europe is staying out of it too. The Trump presidency has done a lot to expose neoliberal alliances for what they are.
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Post #4315 by Dog » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:48 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:Russia is with anyone who will so much as smile at them.


We know.

*turns smug liberal self around and walks away*

Better dead than to be seen with those guys, amirite??!
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Post #4316 by Dog » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:51 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:
mayoradamwest wrote:The USA doing nothing is rather fitting ...


The whole of Europe is staying out of it too. The Trump presidency has done a lot to expose neoliberal alliances for what they are.


Freaking neocons stayed out of their hair even with 9/11. Oil and monies, man.

Saudis have pulled a hissy fit at Sweden and Germany too recently over mild criticism.
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Post #4317 by chicpea » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:07 pm

I am perfectly happy with no one's support. We are right. Let them cower.
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Post #4318 by Slick Nick » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:30 pm

chicpea wrote:I am perfectly happy with no one's support. We are right. Let them cower.


You're rarely wrong when attacking a straw man.
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Post #4319 by chicpea » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:03 am

xong!
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Post #4320 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:34 am

Sad but true.

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Post #4321 by Dog » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:08 am

I think that may or may not be true.

Canada’s tweet was par for the course. It’s what Western govs do. Do business with the Saudis but every once in a while pay lip service to human rights. Same as with China and others. Heck, UK foreign office issued a similarly worded statement on Saudi human rights just yesterday. Saudis just seem to be irrational. The brash prince’s outsized ego picking weird fights where he thinks he can. Yemen, Qatar, Lebannon. Foreign policy based on bluster.

Another possible version (its opaque to us) is that the Trudeau gov may not have returned elevators on the Saudis 15b “investment”. Saudis buy influence by spreading money around and would have expected some love and deeper ties with the 15b order. The Libs may have been cooler than others to the Saudis, prompting them to being already pissed at Canada. In that sense, Canada would have some “credit”. Hard to know exactly to what extent Canada differed from other Western gov in their relations with the Saudis, if indeed there was any difference. They pulled their ambassadors from Sweeden and Germany too over “normal” criticism.

Anywho, this is all quite immaterial at least on face value. Canada-Saudi trade is negligeable. We’re far away from one another. Both middle powers that can’t really do anything more than annoy one another.

What I find to be much more important is that I think this is a consequence of Trump’s transactional view of international relations and natural affinity towards authoritarians. Had he not so clearly shown his disdain for Western alliances, they would have checked their response.

It’s not that it matters in this case, it’s that it signals a new world order. One of American pullback and retrenchment, leading other powers to rush in to take the space. That, of course, leads to considerably more global instability. A realignment where different actors will brush up to one another and test their relative strenght.
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Post #4322 by chicpea » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:52 am

They killed about 40 more kids yesterday. For perspective.
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Post #4323 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:09 pm

Dog wrote:I think that may or may not be true.

Canada’s tweet was par for the course. It’s what Western govs do. Do business with the Saudis but every once in a while pay lip service to human rights. Same as with China and others. Heck, UK foreign office issued a similarly worded statement on Saudi human rights just yesterday. Saudis just seem to be irrational. The brash prince’s outsized ego picking weird fights where he thinks he can. Yemen, Qatar, Lebannon. Foreign policy based on bluster.

Another possible version (its opaque to us) is that the Trudeau gov may not have returned elevators on the Saudis 15b “investment”. Saudis buy influence by spreading money around and would have expected some love and deeper ties with the 15b order. The Libs may have been cooler than others to the Saudis, prompting them to being already pissed at Canada. In that sense, Canada would have some “credit”. Hard to know exactly to what extent Canada differed from other Western gov in their relations with the Saudis, if indeed there was any difference. They pulled their ambassadors from Sweeden and Germany too over “normal” criticism.

Anywho, this is all quite immaterial at least on face value. Canada-Saudi trade is negligeable. We’re far away from one another. Both middle powers that can’t really do anything more than annoy one another.

What I find to be much more important is that I think this is a consequence of Trump’s transactional view of international relations and natural affinity towards authoritarians. Had he not so clearly shown his disdain for Western alliances, they would have checked their response.

It’s not that it matters in this case, it’s that it signals a new world order. One of American pullback and retrenchment, leading other powers to rush in to take the space. That, of course, leads to considerably more global instability. A realignment where different actors will brush up to one another and test their relative strenght.


I fell asleep halfway through this fascinating post.
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Post #4324 by Dog » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:34 pm

Should have wrote it in 9 consecutive tweets.

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Post #4325 by Germz » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:23 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:I fell asleep halfway through this fascinating post.


You'll be a great graduate supervisor one day, doc.
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Post #4326 by Dr_Chimera » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:20 pm

Follow the money.

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Re: Maybe a joke about Bill Morneau

Post #4327 by chicpea » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:58 pm

Maxime Bernier cannot fit any more dog whistles in his sexy mouth.

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