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Post #5201 by mayoradamwest » Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:42 pm

Like that’s anything new
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Post #5202 by mayoradamwest » Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:43 pm

You know what shocks me? People buy wonder bread instead of going to a god damn bakery like a human being.
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Post #5203 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:47 pm

There was hope for the future back in ‘93.
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Post #5204 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:56 pm

Also, I was just kidding. Everything is going to be just fine. : )

It’s interesting to note that New Brunswick’s new goofy premier said he acknowledged this week’s election was a vote in favour of a carbon tax, and that his government will now seek a way to comply with it, federally.
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Post #5205 by Slick Nick » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:59 pm

Dog wrote:But we’ll get there! Much to Nick and Jason Kenney’s (also closet ghey) displeasure!


What's so great about being a collection of taxpayers/consumers without any specific cultrue or identity? Why do you strive for that?
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Post #5206 by Dog » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:21 pm

Slick Nick wrote:
Dog wrote:But we’ll get there! Much to Nick and Jason Kenney’s (also closet ghey) displeasure!


What's so great about being a collection of taxpayers/consumers without any specific cultrue or identity? Why do you strive for that?


Huh? I said that it would take some time to get “rugged rancher individualist culture” to fully transform into a “nerdy, gender-fluid, post-structuralist, neo-marxist philosophy professor from the UQÀM type culture”. Not advocating for culture-less taxpayers/consumers collections of people.

But seriously, I think a good chunk of the urban/rural divide (which may well be the most marked divide in western politics) has to do with the nature of more historically pastoral/smaller community cultures (where trust is more individualized/tied into personal relations and reputations and self-reliance is more emphasized) and the nature of large cities and more integrated economies where trust becomes institutionalized/depersonalized (based on the ‘system’ instead of personal relations) and specialization and mutual reliance is emphasized. Transition from smaller group to larger group values/living.
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Post #5207 by Slick Nick » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:45 pm

Dog wrote:
Slick Nick wrote:
Dog wrote:But we’ll get there! Much to Nick and Jason Kenney’s (also closet ghey) displeasure!


What's so great about being a collection of taxpayers/consumers without any specific cultrue or identity? Why do you strive for that?


Huh? I said that it would take some time to get “rugged rancher individualist culture” to fully transform into a “nerdy, gender-fluid, post-structuralist, neo-marxist philosophy professor from the UQÀM type culture”. Not advocating for culture-less taxpayers/consumers collections of people.

But seriously, I think a good chunk of the urban/rural divide (which may well be the most marked divide in western politics) has to do with the nature of more historically pastoral/smaller community cultures (where trust is more individualized/tied into personal relations and reputations and self-reliance is more emphasized) and the nature of large cities and more integrated economies where trust becomes institutionalized/depersonalized (based on the ‘system’ instead of personal relations) and specialization and mutual reliance is emphasized. Transition from smaller group to larger group values/living.


How does a country/province/community/gender retain it's sepecific identity when the expression of such identity is suppressed?
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Post #5208 by Dog » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:58 pm

What are ya talkin’ bout?
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Post #5209 by Slick Nick » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:59 pm

Dog wrote:What are ya talkin’ bout?


Nevermind.. doggo. Just Slique alt-righting...
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Post #5210 by Dog » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:24 am

Okey dokey. If you mean that the world is pushing towards greater cultural conformity -I agree and disagree! Think there is pressures towards greater inter-group conformity (your alt-right decried ‘globalism’), but at the same time more space for intra-group individualization (your alt-right decried ‘identity politics’ or ‘atomization’).

You see, it’s all just a question of how one defines the reference group, me thinks. One defines it more narrowly, one has a problem with the above (one sees the reference group’s cohesiveness challenged both from above (ie. inter-group pressures for alignment/conformity) and below (ie. intra-group pressure for individualization/differentiation).

One defines the group more generally, one may be happy with more inter-group harmonizing pressures. Intra-group individuation, well that can be seen as a plus or minus, but I think generally speaking a wider group definition allows, by definition, a greater tolerance for in-group difference (ie. the larger the reference group, the more in-group variability is expected).

Basically, smaller but more homogeneous vs larger but more heterogeneous.
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Post #5211 by PredsFan77 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:41 am

those libs in san francisco want us to be more homo that's for damn sure
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Post #5212 by Dog » Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:57 am

PredsFan77 wrote:those libs in san francisco want us to be more homo that's for damn sure


To be clear, I’m fine with ranchers being all cowboyish and whatnot. I just want them to accept AD. I mean, they have the love of leather outfits in common!
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Post #5213 by Elvid » Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:09 am

what is this shit? sounds like a wet dream as Albert as said, is landlocked.

Get ready for “Wexit.”

Trudeau victory prompts ‘Wexit’ talk in Canada’s West
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/2 ... xit-060634
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Post #5214 by mayoradamwest » Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:16 pm

shredz wrote:what is this shit? sounds like a wet dream as Albert as said, is landlocked.

Get ready for “Wexit.”

Trudeau victory prompts ‘Wexit’ talk in Canada’s West
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/2 ... xit-060634



Disgraced whackjobs https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/59na ... -theorists
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Post #5215 by Elvid » Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:31 pm

I guess it sounds spicy as a headline for Politico.
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Post #5216 by Craig » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:20 pm

Congrats on the surplus, Quebec. I assume it goes against the debt? Paying down 4 against 187 is pretty good!
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Post #5217 by AD » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:12 am

Isn't this the 10th year (out of the last 14/15) where Quebec has a surplus and pays down the debt?

Also, little followed point in the RoC, Quebec formed 2 or 3 other "funds", one currently at 12b aimed at future crisis costs, one at 4b aimed at green initiatives and another at 6ish which is there for instant debt reduction if interest rates go up.

These funds aren't currently calculated as debt reduction but, yeah.

The aim was to hit 45% debt to GDP ratio by 2025. Now the projection Quebec will hit that in 2021.
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Post #5218 by Craig » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:18 am

What's the point of a fund to pay down the debt later? Is it invested in something safe at a better return than the debt servicing fee?

A 4b fund for green initiatives is just spending, no?

The feds have an emergency fund in every budget, they just apply it to the debt if it goes unspent every year. Doesn't mean anything unless you're in surplus though.
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Post #5219 by AD » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:22 am

Yes the funds are entrusted to the Caisse and these days it's getting double the amount on returns than the current cost of money.
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Post #5220 by AD » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:24 am

The green initiatives fund is future spending, already accounted for as spending, but not yet spent. So..

.. stupid accountants.
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Post #5221 by Craig » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:27 am

In theory Caisse will always beat borrowing costs. Let's just run massive deficits and invest it all!
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Post #5222 by AD » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:28 am

Craig wrote:In theory Caisse will always beat borrowing costs. Let's just run massive deficits and invest it all!


That's only true in theory if borrowing costs are predicted and controlled.

But.. I mean.. sure. Borrow and invest has been a good plan for the last 15 years
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Post #5223 by Craig » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:39 am

You could even put it in CPP instead and get even higher returns!
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Post #5224 by Boring Choice #2 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:16 am

AD wrote:The green initiatives fund is future spending, already accounted for as spending, but not yet spent. So..

.. stupid government accountants.


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Post #5225 by Dog » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:37 am

Craig wrote:Congrats on the surplus, Quebec. I assume it goes against the debt? Paying down 4 against 187 is pretty good!


The’re giving it to non-upper middle class families. Again.

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Post #5226 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:38 am

$12 billion plus $4 billion plus $6 billion...*looks up projected equalization for next year*
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Post #5227 by AD » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:44 pm

Dog wrote:
Craig wrote:Congrats on the surplus, Quebec. I assume it goes against the debt? Paying down 4 against 187 is pretty good!


The’re giving it to non-upper middle class families. Again.

:rollseyes:


Every family is getting about a 1 grand.
Non upper middle classes can get up to 2,800
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Post #5228 by Craig » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:37 pm

They're giving it back? I'd rather pay down debt, were I a Queeb.
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Post #5229 by AD » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:17 pm

Yeah agreed. Though they're doing a bit of that too.
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Post #5230 by AD » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:17 pm

And making hospital parking cheap and daycares cheaper.

The classics.
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Post #5232 by Elvid » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:16 pm

This is disgusting. This wench is no journalist.

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Re: Canadian Politics: treading water until the next election

Post #5233 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:45 pm

“Preserve 25% of the oceans by 2025”

What in the world does that mean?
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Post #5234 by Craig » Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:53 pm

Make them marine reserves excluded from fishing and drilling maybe? Is this a thing someone said?
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Post #5235 by MP » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:17 pm

I believe we are sacrificing the India Ocean...
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Post #5236 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:18 pm

Craig wrote:Make them marine reserves excluded from fishing and drilling maybe? Is this a thing someone said?


During the antiquated speech from the “throne” the ticker of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation’s flagship news network, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation News, displayed the above for a few moments.
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Post #5238 by Elvid » Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:42 pm

shredz wrote:This is disgusting. This wench is no journalist.



Good shit. I'm all for a counter argument to the Syria war and NATO, but she is just a parrot.

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Re: You're an incumbent PM in an election year, JT. Show some goddamn backbone.

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Re: Canadian Politics: treading water until the next election

Post #5241 by PPJ » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:03 pm

Scheer just resigned, err was pushed off a cliff, lol!

All hail Peter Mackay!
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Post #5242 by chicpea » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:06 pm

So long, Andy.
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Post #5243 by chicpea » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:06 pm

Welcome, Jayson.
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Post #5244 by PPJ » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:14 pm

Ya think they’ll go oil baron again, lol.
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Post #5245 by Boring Choice #2 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:17 pm

rona ambrose might be in the running. i think raitt might have also run, but i read / heard that her husband is early-onset dementia or something, so she probably wouldn't be interested in taking on this challenge now.
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Post #5246 by senate » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:57 pm

Luckily Scheer has his insurance broker career to fall back on.
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Post #5247 by mayoradamwest » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:41 pm

He stole money for private school?
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Post #5248 by IcE ColD » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:34 pm

Can we have a Mulroney kid? Just for the fun of having a Trudeau vs. Mulroney bout..
This whole idea that we are even important is a fucking illusion. We’re just an accident left to our own devices.

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Post #5249 by senate » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:36 pm

How did I miss this photo during the election?

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Post #5250 by chicpea » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:44 pm

Do you think I can buy his kids' private school uniforms for christmas presents?

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