You're an incumbent PM in an election year, JT. Show some goddamn backbone.

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Post #3551 by mayoradamwest » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:04 pm

mcphee wrote:
Germz wrote:
mayoradamwest wrote:We always elect the opposite to the federal government. Interesting quirk.


Yes, and I'm willing to bet Ford has more than enough time to fuck up badly enough to help Trudeau.

Dog wrote:There is no denying the stark urban-rural divide. Just look at electoral maps. The suburbs are the frontier/battlelines.


Yeah, I don't deny the divide, I just think it gets overplayed by city observers trying to explain the Trump phenomenon. The problem with the battleground characterization is that it's a sleight of hand. It makes "the country" the source for political heresies that somehow infect the burbs when in fact, I think, the suburban culture itself is the source for much if not most of this stuff.

also, suburban pussies are afraid of country boys taking their women.



Country folk think city folk look down on them which isn’t true. We don’t think about them at all.
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Post #3552 by The Bytown Boozer » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:08 pm

Andrea Horwath needs to step down. She had the lead for about a week and a half and she totally failed to capitalize on that momentum. If she couldn't win then, she never will in my opinion. For her replacement I nominate Much Music alumni and a former teenage crush of yours truly: Jennifer Hollett.
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Post #3553 by The Bytown Boozer » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:09 pm

Peggy Nash, Paul Dewar & Linda McQuaig are also interesting options.
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Post #3554 by mayoradamwest » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:16 pm

Dog wrote:Come to think of it, you're also old and white and male.

How the heck did you not vote for Doug Ford?


You could be an old white educated male.
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Dog wrote:Hey, mcphee, you've lived in both the suburbs and the country! Which has the worse people?


Assholes everywhere Dog.
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Post #3556 by mcphee » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:00 pm

Dog wrote:Come to think of it, you're also old and white and male.

How the heck did you not vote for Doug Ford?

He didn't run in my riding
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Post #3557 by chicpea » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:21 pm

Politics is a very serious business. I am up for the challenge.
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Post #3558 by The Bytown Boozer » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:07 pm

So any suggestions for a potential new Liberal leader in Ontario? Gerard Kennedy seems like an obvious name to drop here.
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Post #3559 by chicpea » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:08 pm

This might be a wildcard throwaway, but how about Gian Ghomeshi.
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Post #3560 by Slick Nick » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:10 am

You can have Jaggi Sing back.. I mean, looks like the perfect fit to complement Permanent Halloween

Also, can Ford build a wall with Quebec and make the newfs pay for it? Thanks
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Post #3562 by The Bytown Boozer » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:07 am

Slick Nick wrote:You can have Jaggi Sing back.. I mean, looks like the perfect fit to complement Permanent Halloween

Also, can Ford build a wall with Quebec and make the newfs pay for it? Thanks


Yeah... sweet fucking burns there, Nikùlin.

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Post #3563 by The Bytown Boozer » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:12 am

The Bytown Boozer wrote:So any suggestions for a potential new Liberal leader in Ontario? Gerard Kennedy seems like an obvious name to drop here.


Bob Rae!


Bob Rae!


Bob Rae!


Bob Rae!


Bob Rae!


Bob Rae!


Bob Rae!


Bob Rae!
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Post #3564 by The Bytown Boozer » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:17 am

I know she's hated & everything, but Kathleen Wynne will actually go down as one of the top 3 Premiers in this shitty province's history. She (and McGuinty too if we wanna really talk about Ontario politics) did more than anybody since at least Davis.

  • Beer. In grocery stores... and fucking weed dispensaries! Popping up all over this once puritan province.
  • We actually have wind farms in our province now. No other Ontario government has ever at least tried to pull its own weight when it comes to the insane energy needs of this province.
  • The sex-ed curriculum, which is actually good if you consider the alternatives.
  • Their scandals are surprisingly mundane, and not all that scandalous.
Wynne was the Premier that made all that happen. Her unemployment numbers are actually really respectable too. And she gave ONE HELL of a press conference on June 8th, the day after the election. Check it out if you have the time, it's well worth it even if you hate her.
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Post #3565 by chicpea » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:24 am

The Bytown Boozer wrote:So any suggestions for a potential new Liberal leader in Ontario? Gerard Kennedy seems like an obvious name to drop here.


I've thought about it some more, byboo. What would you say to the man formerly known as WADE REDDON?
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Post #3566 by The Bytown Boozer » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:19 pm

chicpea wrote:
The Bytown Boozer wrote:So any suggestions for a potential new Liberal leader in Ontario? Gerard Kennedy seems like an obvious name to drop here.


I've thought about it some more, byboo. What would you say to the man formerly known as WADE REDDON?

"Legalize coke."
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Post #3568 by Dr_Chimera » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:45 pm

#eyebrowgate
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Post #3569 by shredz » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:06 am

On behalf of every American who cares about our historic relationship:

Trump, Kudlow, and especially you, Peter Navarro, can go to hell. :colbert:

There's a 'special place in hell' for Trudeau after his G7 'stunt,' top WH Trade Adviser Peter Navarro says
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06 ... -says.html

These nutcases who listen to Alex Jones are running our government. What's with the chip on the shoulder for with Canada? Trying to impress Putin and Slick Nick?
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Post #3570 by shredz » Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:01 am

When I first heard Trump on Savage Nation, I had a strong feeling his overall message was going to resonate with many people in the country but once it became so divisive that 50 year marriages were destroyed because of his election win, working class people (even a good chunk of black Americans) were closet Trump supporters. I think I wrote in this thread that would be a factor. I've seen two grown white men - one a Deli clerk, the other, a customer, get into fights over the mere mention of Trump. This is in Hampton Bays, Long Island.

The system is broken because of internal turmoil and it looks like it's only going to become uglier. Russia like a boxer giving some jabs and hooks when opportunity srises but America would do the same. We have an empire at this point as Populism spreads rampant through out these here States. Tribalism in 2018. Fuck you Canada -- we are America, King Trump thinks you're completely pathetic.
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Post #3572 by Dr_Chimera » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:45 pm

senate wrote:https://twitter.com/JeffreyGoldberg/status/1006182746857857024


Jeffrey Goldberg supported Bush's Iraq War, which was enacted against the objection of America's closest allies. I guess the irony did not hit him.
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Post #3573 by Dr_Chimera » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:48 pm

It's amazing Goldberg still has a career in journalism. But that's America for you, bitch.

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Post #3574 by mayoradamwest » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:56 pm

Old folks are loving the Trudeau flashbacks... And the brothel picture thing.
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Post #3575 by mayoradamwest » Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:11 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:It's amazing Goldberg still has a career in journalism. But that's America for you, bitch.

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Doesn’t he work for Frum?
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Post #3576 by shredz » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:47 am

Dr_Chimera wrote:It's amazing Goldberg still has a career in journalism. But that's America for you, bitch.

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Come on Doc, we all know they moved the WMD to Syria. :vince:
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Post #3578 by chicpea » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:46 pm

Supply-side shuffle?

Former Conservative leadership contender Maxime Bernier has been removed from his spot on the party's front bench in the House of Commons, says Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer.

"I have removed Maxime Bernier from the Official Opposition Shadow Cabinet, effective immediately" Scheer said in a short statement issued by his office.

"The Shadow Minister for Science, Matt Jeneroux, will assume the additional role of shadow minister for innovation, science and economic development on an interim basis."

Scheer's statement did not give a reason for Bernier's removal.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/maxime- ... -1.4703609
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Post #3579 by mayoradamwest » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:21 pm

Dog wrote:The Milk Wars.


I don’t think we need to make racial jokes. :rudy:
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Post #3580 by shredz » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:16 am

Some real thought provoking positive political discourse thanks to Donald Trump.

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Post #3581 by The Bytown Boozer » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:24 am

chicpea wrote:Supply-side shuffle?

Former Conservative leadership contender Maxime Bernier has been removed from his spot on the party's front bench in the House of Commons, says Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer.

"I have removed Maxime Bernier from the Official Opposition Shadow Cabinet, effective immediately" Scheer said in a short statement issued by his office.

"The Shadow Minister for Science, Matt Jeneroux, will assume the additional role of shadow minister for innovation, science and economic development on an interim basis."

Scheer's statement did not give a reason for Bernier's removal.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/maxime- ... -1.4703609


*prays for a split the right movement to take hold*
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Post #3582 by shredz » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:51 am

explain yourselves

Revealed: Canada uses massive US anti-terrorist database at borders
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... at-borders

These databases facilitate the practice of racial and ethnic profiling

Lex Gill, University of Toronto Citizen Lab

:ford_facepalm:
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Post #3583 by mayoradamwest » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:01 am

That's not new. See smart border accord post 9/11
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Post #3584 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:09 pm

Liberals deserve the same kind of death the conservatives suffered in the 90s.

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:wink:


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Post #3586 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:48 am

Steve shouldn't have insulted Putin that time at the G20 and now the cows have come home to roost.
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Post #3587 by shredz » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:56 am

Harper's getting a tour of the bottom of the Crimean bridge.
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Post #3589 by Zardoz » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:06 am

Isn't that the safety village?
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Post #3590 by Hossa » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:59 am

Not sure I've ever seen somebody massacre their talking points quite like this:

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2018/07/26/ ... urriculum/
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Post #3591 by Craig » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:00 am

So Ford's plan to cut Toronto's city council from 47 to 25 people is....interesting. I can see the argument for going with less reps and aligning the wards with provincial/federal ridings, but my God, did you have to decide to do this the day before nominations close for the 47 wards? It seems much too late in the game to try to push this change this year.
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Post #3592 by Boring Choice #2 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:07 pm

he could just cancel and reschedule the election too. municipalities only exist at the behest of the province and have no constitutional right to exist under the canadian constitution.
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Post #3593 by Craig » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:15 pm

Boring Choice #2 wrote:he could just cancel and reschedule the election too. municipalities only exist at the behest of the province and have no constitutional right to exist under the canadian constitution.


Yeah, that would be better. At least give them a chance to reasonably run an election.
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Post #3594 by Boring Choice #2 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:32 pm

Craig wrote:
Boring Choice #2 wrote:he could just cancel and reschedule the election too. municipalities only exist at the behest of the province and have no constitutional right to exist under the canadian constitution.


Yeah, that would be better. At least give them a chance to reasonably run an election.


it really just says more about the premier of the province and the fact that he can't stay out of municipal politics. i don't know why he's worried about the number of councillors in a municipal government if that municipal government isn't concerned. is he going to willy nilly change the structure of other municipal governments? if he's so concerned about toronto municipal politics, he should have run for mayor of the city.
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Post #3595 by Craig » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:49 pm

They just had a four year project to determine the number of seats and the boundaries in Toronto, which considered and rejected the 25 seat plan because it was really unbalanced and nobody liked it. This was supposed to be the first election using the new system that came out of it.
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Post #3596 by Germz » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:45 pm

Reducing the city council to 25 doesn't seem like the worst idea ever. But everything about this looks like pure unfiltered spite on Ford's part. He hated that council and now he wants to hurt them, pure and simple.
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Post #3597 by Boring Choice #2 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:01 pm

It really doesn't make much of a difference if it is 25 or 45 or 105, other than the population per councillor. And you are not saving much money by doing it. It is just an exercise in how much he can antagonize the municipalities.
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Post #3598 by Craig » Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:18 pm

The 25 thing cuts the city up into chunks that will shift council way to the right.
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Post #3599 by mooseOAK » Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:54 pm

He has obviously studied the Republicans’ strategy.
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