Portugal

[Craig]

It's neither out of the way nor complicating.

[AD]

As usual, this is a time issue, not a location issue. Dog.

[AD]

Only if you're traveling by plane.

[AD]

Good. I'm glad that's settled.

[Twitter bArt]

It's not a location thing

it's a time/multiple flight thing

It's be easier to go to Iceland and then Lisbon

[Twitter bArt]

i think i may be able to get it done, but will have to sacrifice a day in Lisbon or Porto

[Slick Nick]

Pena castle in Sintra is a very cool daytrip if you're in the Lisbon area. If you want to have some beach time around Lisbon, Praia do Troia (Setubal) about 1.5h from Lisbon is great, much closer you have Cascais and Estoril (about 45 minutes on the train from downtown Lisbon) is a must I think.

Also, I would end the trip in Porto.. there are a lot flights from Porto to YUL. It's really a nice small city, very laid back.. no stress, enjoy a good meal on the Douro with a great local wine.

[AD]

And then come see us in YUL!

[MP]

Yes Sintra is good. Go early, by train, catch the first bus and go right to the castle, then walk down to the old Moorish castle. Only do the palace if you got time to kill.

We did it in reverse and the castle was absolutely mobbed with people by the time we got there.

We did the walk from the Moorish castle down to the town/palace. Totally doable, but the trail markers weren't the best.

[Twitter bArt]

so would you spend more time in Porto (4 days) - Lisbon(3 days) or the reverse

[MP]

I guess it depends on how much of a connoisseur of port wine you wannabe. If you just want to see the sights, visit one or two of the main port houses, then you need 2 days minimum. Porto is not that big of city, but if you tack on days sampling port wine or doing a Douro valley tour you can easily stretch it out.

Lisbon, while still pretty much walkable, is more spread out, has more sites, more areas to explore, more shopping, and a more metro feel than Porto. Then you have a day to Sintra which is worth it.

My feeling was while I like the Porto vibe more, I would still spend more time in Lisboa on a first visit. If you got 7 days, I'd go 3 in Porto, 3 in Lisbon, 1 in Sintra.

[MP]

Why only 7 days? How long is the trip? That said, Lisbon 4 and Porto 3 seem a minimum to get a decent feel for each cities, I would think.

Maybe RT like to travel like PF77.

[Twitter bArt]

Why only 7 days? How long is the trip? That said, Lisbon 4 and Porto 3 seem a minimum to get a decent feel for each cities, I would think.

it's actually 3-5 days in Sao Miguel and then trying to figure out the rest

going for a total of 14 days, but trying to leave some flexibility, right now I am working on the minimums to spend in each place I guess.

so like

4 days Sao Miguel
4 days Porto
4 days Lisbon

leave me a couple of travel days as well.

[AD]

So why do you want to spend 14 straight days around Portuguese and semi-Portuguese people?

[Twitter bArt]

i'm trying to understand Fids and Beak better

maybe even gain some insight into Mu

[Boring Choice #2]

i'm trying to understand Fids and Beak better

maybe even gain some insight into Mu

So, you are essentially saying that you hate yourself?

[Twitter bArt]

i'm trying to understand Fids and Beak better

maybe even gain some insight into Mu

So, you are essentially saying that you hate yourself?

yes, in more words than necessary

[TittiesNBeer]

Order Befanas!

[Twitter bArt]

Still can't figure out Mu

[PredsFan77]

Ronaldo gonna get beat today yall

[PredsFan77]

drew instead, i was close

[chicpea]

I hear the portos are cruising up and down little Italy in "the 6ix" trolling with flags hanging from their kia rondos.

[chicpea]

Looks like my buddy dong was right about this Harold Kang fellow. Did you see the gifs in the app? It was like the future of soccer.

[PredsFan77]

hey what should I do in Lisbon for 2.5 days?

[MP]

Eat, and party till the early morning.

[MP]

Really though that and wandering around narrow streets, going to see Sintra, there not much else.

[PredsFan77]

Is there a part of town better to stay at than others? Getting in late if it makes a difference. Other option is Barcelona but haven’t been to Portugal yet and is the only western europe country I haven’t visited yet so pushing for Lisbon.

[MP]

We stayed between castle st George and main square, which we really like for its local feel. If you're looking for a party, I think the area on the other side of the main square is where the nightlife is.

[PredsFan77]

how about the area around Intendente station and Miradouro da Nossa Senhora do Monte? Any better than area around Rossio or Mercado da Ribeira?

[MP]

We stayed near Rossio and didn't venture up that way, the internet says that is a rougher area. The Alfama or Bairro Alto areas are the places to stay. The Alfama is definitely hilly.

https://lisbonlisboaportugal.com/lisbon ... -area.html

[MP]

This is where we stayed:

https://www.airbnb.ca/rooms/6701682?loc ... 1&guests=1

[PredsFan77]

ok not bad, booked a place near martim moniz, i'll bring my knife.

I guess I qualify as "A clued up, worldly traveller "

[PredsFan77]

Yo this place hilly as fuck

[PredsFan77]

Yo this market is cool. Overpriced no doubt but all kinds of food and cheap wine #drunk

[PredsFan77]

I get juiced on Mateus and just hang loose

[PredsFan77]

Hey I’m in Spain now

[PredsFan77]

It was weird getting on the plane and they spoke a language I understood after being stuck not knowing any Portuguese

[PredsFan77]

Also I think Ronaldo is staying at our hotel