Seth Jones - The Quest for Assets Continues

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Post #851 by Not » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:20 pm

TittiesNBeer wrote:The best centre in the game and a giy who recently took home back to back Stanley cups and conn smythe trophies is 5'11

Martin st. Louis was a key piece of a cup winner and a two time art ross winner.

The vegas golden knights made the cup final with a top line centre who is 5'10.

We'll have to agree to disagree on size being a necessity to being an elite nhl player.


Fuck are you dense, even for a lawyer

This has nothing to do with what we are arguing about... I never said it's all about size - but smaller players are outliers - never really picked high in draft. In the last 10 drafts - 2 players under 6 feet were drafted in top 3 - Yakupov and Duchesne.

You would fit right in with the Republican party - you just say shit and hope people buy it.

BTW - Karlsson #1 for Vegas is 6'1"
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Post #852 by TittiesNBeer » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:25 pm

Karlsson and marchassault both take an equal amount of faceoffs. Marchessault is the centre on the line.

Same way that auston matthews and william nylander shift faceoffs depending which side of the ice its on. Matthews plays centre and nylander on the wing.

As for the past, the game gets faster and more skilled every year. Timmins comments are the acknowledgement of that. But those who are dense are the ones who deny the changes. Just like the Republicans who deny climate change.
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Post #853 by Not » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:39 pm

TittiesNBeer wrote:Karlsson and marchassault both take an equal amount of faceoffs. Marchessault is the centre on the line.

Same way that auston matthews and william nylander shift faceoffs depending which side of the ice its on. Matthews plays centre and nylander on the wing.

As for the past, the game gets faster and more skilled every year. Timmins comments are the acknowledgement of that. But those who are dense are the ones who deny the changes. Just like the Republicans who deny climate change.


Play has changed in the last 3 years and it will continue to evolve. The true evolution is that bigger guys are getting faster and more skilled. This is still a big man sport - room for smaller players - but still a heavy game.
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Post #854 by TittiesNBeer » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:42 pm

Not wrote:
TittiesNBeer wrote:Karlsson and marchassault both take an equal amount of faceoffs. Marchessault is the centre on the line.

Same way that auston matthews and william nylander shift faceoffs depending which side of the ice its on. Matthews plays centre and nylander on the wing.

As for the past, the game gets faster and more skilled every year. Timmins comments are the acknowledgement of that. But those who are dense are the ones who deny the changes. Just like the Republicans who deny climate change.


Play has changed in the last 3 years and it will continue to evolve. The true evolution is that bigger guys are getting faster and more skilled. This is still a big man sport - room for smaller players - but still a heavy game.


Sure, but guys like Zadina are not faster. Tkachuk is not faster. Kotkaniemi is not faster. All three have footspeed as their biggest weakness.

If its between Svechnikov and Hughes, I know who I'm taking, and its Svechnikov.

But those big guys are not fast, and thats going to cause as much problem, as Hughes lack of size. You have to decide which one you are willing to live without when the rest of the package is there.
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Post #855 by Retardé S » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:25 pm

Dog wrote:It’s all smokescreens, fellows. Smokescreens all the way down.

It's all just a bunch of nothing Doggo
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Post #856 by Dog » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:39 pm

Retardé S wrote:
Dog wrote:It’s all smokescreens, fellows. Smokescreens all the way down.

It's all just a bunch of nothing Doggo


Well, that’s something!
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Post #857 by Mufasa » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:44 pm

You can get your hopes up when you are small, but the size always grab the diva cup.
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Post #858 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:44 pm

Bob McKenzie on his podcast: "If the Montreal Canadiens were to take Kotkaniemi at number 3, this is no longer an off the board pick" Mentions multiple NHL scouts he surveyed have the finnish centre ranked above Zadina/Tkachuk
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone

It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.

Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."

...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...

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Post #859 by Retardé S » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:48 pm

This draft is a total crapshoot after pick #2

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Post #860 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:51 pm

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Interesting stuff about Bob's draft rankings here.
1) Some players don't crack the consensus Top 93 even though they're ranked late 1st / early 2nd by one or two teams but aren't in the Top 90 by others.
2) Svechnikov consensus #2 prospect now.Jokke Nevalainen added,
3) Multiple scouts have Zadina falling out of their top 5.
4) Kotkaniemi got multiple top 5 votes, Dobson as well.
5) Hayton and Kravtsov got a top 5 vote as well. Sounds like they're going to be top 12 guys on his list.
6) Kotkaniemi at #3 to Montreal isn't considered a reach anymore. Sounds like he's going to be high on the final consensus list.
7) Dobson is the 2nd highest ranked defenseman which probably means he's top 5. Has overtaken Bouchard and Boqvist since the last ranking.
8) Boqvist is ranked behind Dobson, Bouchard and Hughes, meaning he's likely somewhere around #9 or #10.
9) Merkley is ranked anywhere from #16 to #60. The teams that have him in their top 25 are not sure they'd actually take him that high.
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #861 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:06 pm

Jesperi Kotkaniemi had an impressive year while playing for Assat by putting up 29 points in 57 games, he followed that up with 1 assist in 7 playoff games. Internationally, he had an underwhelming Hlinka Memorial but picked up the pace considerably at the Five-Nations and saved his best effort for Finland at the U18’s where he was one of the more impressive players at the event, helping his team win gold.

Kotkaniemi is a large two-way center who has a high-level of intelligence and competitiveness that compliments a versatile game. There’s not one specific attribute that stands-out above the rest for Jesperi, however he does have several good to great attributes that allowed him to become one of the most promising centres in this year’s draft. Two of the most important factors when we assess a prospect is intelligence followed by skill, and that’s what he brings to the table. He’s a smart player who’s capable of breaking down the opposition using patience, poise, and awareness of what his teammates are attempting to do, this allowed him to adapt to Finland’s top pro league this past season as well as drive one of the most successful lines at the U18’s. He’s capable of accommodating and adjusting to conditions on the ice, for instance when playing along the half-wall on the powerplay, he can identify if the defense and adjust quickly, creating opportunities for himself and his teammates. Furthermore, he’s a creative player who can set up unorthodox plays due to his soft-hands and excellent vision, for instance we have seen him bank a puck between a player’s legs off
the back of the net before using his length to re-collect the puck, effectively turning his opponent inside-out. He’s also capable of threading accurate and crisp passes through heavy traffic but isn’t a player who forces plays, this allows him to drive possession for his team without turning the puck over too often. It’s challenging for defensive units to identify what he’s attempting to do with the puck on his stick and this makes him difficult for goalies to read as well.

Additionally, Kotkaniemi has a high-end release point. He has reach and generates a lot of velocity. Factor that with his ability to change the angle of his shot by dragging the puck in-tight to his body both at a stand-still position and while driving down a lane and it makes for a difficult shot for goalies to handle. Although he has a fluid stride and likes to use his edges to manipulate his frame so that he can evade incoming checks and weave through heavy traffic, his acceleration is average and his base isn’t fully developed yet, which puts him off balance when he attempts some of his more technical dekes. When he isn’t offensively engaged or executing at the rate
he’s capable of given his skill-set, he still finds ways to be effective for his team. He’s shown a high-level of compete without the puck and is willing to expend his motor in order to track-down the opposition during backchecking sequences, he’s also willing to forecheck aggressively and finishes his checks along the boards.
Kotkaniemi demonstrated a mature, all-around game that gives him a high-floor with a lot of upside, his versatility allows him to move up and down a line-up and we see him as potentially developing into a solid two-way center at the NHL level.

“He's better than I thought.” NHL Scout, February 2018

“I had Kupari ahead of him until now.” - NHL Scout, February 2018

“Skilled 2nd line center and possibly even a number one center. He’s a smart player.” - NHL Scout, May 2018

“When I saw him in Plymouth (Five Nations Tournament) I knew instantly he was moving up our ranking. Those were the viewings that allowed me to see his playmaking ability and his skill. He went pointless in one game but easily could’ve had 4 assists if he got some help from his linemates. He’s a smart, skilled responsible centreman. - HP Scout, Mark Edwards

“Good feedback from interviews at the NHL Combine. “ - HP Scout, Mark Edwards
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #863 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:21 pm

Mac here is 300 names to get you started

1 Rasmus Dahlin D Frolunda (Swe) 6-2/185 13-Apr-00 Sweden
2 Andrei Svechnikov RW Barrie (OHL) 6-2/190 26-Mar-00 Russia
3 Filip Zadina RW Halifax (QMJHL) 6-0/195 27-Nov-99 Czech
4 Brady Tkachuk LW Boston University (HE) 6-3/195 16-Sep-99 USA
5 Oliver Wahlstrom RW NTDP (USA) 6-1/205 13-Jun-00 USA
6 Quinn Hughes D Michigan (B1G) 5-10/175 14-Oct-99 USA
7 Evan Bouchard D London (OHL) 6-2/195 20-Oct-99 Canada
8 Noah Dobson D Acadie-Bathurst (QMJHL) 6-3/180 7-Jan-00 Canada
9 Adam Boqvist D Brynas (Swe) 5-11/170 15-Aug-00 Sweden
10 Joe Veleno C Drummondville (QMJHL) 6-1/195 13-Jan-00 Canada
11 Barrett Hayton C Sault Ste Marie (OHL) 6-1/190 9-Jun-00 Canada
12 Joel Farabee LW NTDP (USA) 5-11/165 25-Feb-00 USA
13 Jesperi Kotkaniemi C Assat Pori (Fin) 6-1/190 6-Jul-00 Finland
14 K'Andre Miller D NTDP (USA) 6-3/205 21-Jan-00 USA
15 Ty Smith D Spokane (WHL) 5-10/180 24-Mar-00 Canada
16 Vitali Kravtsov RW Traktor Chelyabinsk (Rus) 6-2/170 23-Dec-99 Russia
17 Bode Wilde D NTDP (USA) 6-2/195 24-Jan-00 USA
18 Dominik Bokk RW Vaxjo Lakers (Swe) 6-1/180 3-Feb-00 Germany
19 Isac Lundestrom C Lulea (Swe) 6-0/185 6-Nov-99 Sweden
20 Martin Kaut RW Pardubice (Cze) 6-1/175 2-Oct-99 Czech
21 Rasmus Kupari C Karpat Oulu (Fin) 6-1/185 15-Mar-00 Finland
22 Serron Noel RW Oshawa (OHL) 6-5/205 8-Aug-00 Canada
23 Rasmus Sandin D Sault Ste Marie (OHL) 5-11/185 7-Mar-00 Sweden
24 Jared McIsaac D Halifax (QMJHL) 6-1/195 27-Mar-00 Canada
25 Liam Foudy C London (OHL) 6-0/175 4-Feb-00 Canada
26 Akil Thomas C Niagara (OHL) 5-11/170 2-Jan-00 Canada
27 Grigori Denisenko LW Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (Rus) 5-11/175 24-Jun-00 Russia
28 Jonatan Berggren RW Skelleftea (Swe) 5-10/185 6-Jul-00 Sweden
29 Ryan McLeod C Mississauga (OHL) 6-2/205 21-Sep-99 Canada
30 Calen Addison D Lethbridge (WHL) 5-10/180 11-Apr-00 Canada
31 Ryan Merkley D Guelph (OHL) 5-11/170 14-Aug-00 Canada
32 Ty Dellandrea C Flint (OHL) 6-0/185 21-Jul-00 Canada
33 Jacob Olofsson C Timra (Swe) 6-2/190 8-Feb-00 Sweden
34 Kirill Marchenko RW Mamonty Yurgy (Rus) 6-3/190 21-Jul-00 Russia
35 Alexander Alexeyev D Red Deer (WHL) 6-3/200 15-Nov-99 Russia
36 Jesse Ylonen RW Blues (Fin) 6-0/165 3-Oct-99 Finland
37 Nils Lundkvist D Lulea (Swe) 5-11/180 27-Jul-00 Sweden
38 Benoit-Olivier Groulx C Halifax (QMJHL) 6-1/195 6-Feb-00 Canada
39 Mattias Samuelsson D NTDP (USA) 6-3/215 14-Mar-00 USA
40 Blake McLaughlin LW Chicago (USHL) 6-0/165 14-Feb-00 USA
41 Jett Woo D Moose Jaw (WHL) 6-0/205 27-Jul-00 Canada
42 Adam Ginning D Linkopings (Swe) 6-3/195 13-Jan-00 Sweden
43 Allan McShane C Oshawa (OHL) 5-11/190 14-Feb-00 Canada
44 Jonny Tychonick D Penticton (BCHL) 6-0/175 3-Mar-00 Canada
45 Ty Emberson D NTDP (USA) 6-0/195 24-May-00 USA
46 Filip Johansson D Leksands (Swe) 6-0/175 23-Mar-00 Sweden
47 Filip Hallander C Timra (Swe) 6-1/185 29-Jun-00 Sweden
48 Jay O'Brien C Thayer Academy (USHS-MA) 5-10/185 4-Nov-99 USA
49 Niklas Nordgren RW HIFK Helsinki (Fin) 5-9/170 4-May-00 Finland
50 David Gustafsson C HV 71 (Swe) 6-1/195 11-Apr-00 Sweden
51 Jack McBain C Toronto Jr Canadiens (OJHL) 6-3/195 6-Jan-00 Canada
52 Aidan Dudas C Owen Sound (OHL) 5-7/165 15-Jun-00 Canada
53 Jonathan Gruden C NTDP (USA) 5-11/175 4-May-00 USA
54 Sampo Ranta LW Sioux City (USHL) 6-1/195 31-May-00 Finland
55 Nicolas Beaudin D Drummondville (QMJHL) 5-11/175 7-Oct-99 Canada
56 Jacob Bernard-Docker D Okotoks (AJHL) 6-0/180 30-Jun-00 Canada
57 Sean Durzi D Owen Sound (OHL) 5-11/195 21-Oct-98 Canada
58 Kevin Bahl D Ottawa (OHL) 6-6/230 27-Jun-00 Canada
59 Tyler Weiss LW NTDP (USA) 5-10/160 3-Jan-00 USA
60 Tyler Madden C Tri-City (USHL) 5-10/155 9-Nov-99 USA
61 Alexander Khovanov C Moncton (QMJHL) 5-11/195 12-Apr-00 Russia
62 Jake Wise C NTDP (USA) 5-10/190 28-Feb-00 USA
63 Lukas Dostal G Slavia Trebic (Cze 2) 6-1/165 22-Jun-00 Czech
64 Adam Mascherin LW Kitchener (OHL) 5-9/195 6-Jun-98 Canada
65 Olivier Rodrigue G Drummondville (QMJHL) 6-1/160 6-Jul-00 Canada
66 Jack Drury C Waterloo (USHL) 5-11/180 3-Feb-00 USA
67 Alexis Gravel G Halifax (QMJHL) 6-3/220 21-Mar-00 Canada
68 Ruslan Iskhakov C CSKA Moscow (Rus) 5-8/155 22-Jul-00 Russia
69 Blade Jenkins LW Saginaw (OHL) 6-1/195 11-Aug-00 USA
70 Milos Roman C Vancouver (WHL) 6-0/190 6-Nov-99 Slovakia
71 Xavier Bernard D Drummondville (QMJHL) 6-2/205 6-Jan-00 Canada
72 Jan Jenik RW Benatky nad Jizerou (Cze) 6-1/165 15-Sep-00 Czech
73 Cam Hillis C Guelph (OHL) 5-10/170 24-Jun-00 Canada
74 Pavel Gogolev RW Peterborough (OHL) 6-0/175 19-Feb-00 Russia
75 Oskar Back C Farjestads (Swe) 6-2/195 12-Mar-00 Sweden
76 Ivan Morozov C Yugra Khanty-Mansiysk (Rus) 6-1/180 5-May-00 Russia
77 Patrick Giles RW NTDP (USA) 6-4/205 3-Jan-00 USA
78 Martin Fehervary D Oskarshamn (Swe) 6-1/190 6-Oct-99 Slovakia
79 Giovanni Vallati D Kitchener (OHL) 6-1/180 21-Feb-00 Canada
80 Philipp Kurashev C Quebec (QMJHL) 6-0/190 12-Oct-99 Switzerland
81 Gabriel Fortier C Baie-Comeau (QMJHL) 5-10/170 6-Feb-00 Canada
82 Nico Gross D Oshawa (OHL) 6-1/185 26-Jan-00 Switzerland
83 Jakub Lauko C Chomutov (Cze) 6-0/175 28-Mar-00 Czech
84 Ryan O'Reilly 2 RW Madison (USHL) 6-2/200 21-Mar-00 USA
85 Merrick Rippon D Ottawa (OHL) 6-0/190 27-Apr-00 Canada
86 Stanislav Demin D Wenatchee (BCHL) 6-1/190 4-Apr-00 USA
87 Riley Sutter C Everett (WHL) 6-3/200 25-Oct-99 Canada
88 Axel Andersson D Djurgardens (Swe) 6-0/180 10-Feb-00 Sweden
89 Cole Fonstad C Prince Albert (WHL) 5-10/160 24-Apr-00 Canada
90 Semyon Der- Arguchintsev C Peterborough (OHL) 5-10/160 15-Sep-00 Russia
91 Olof Lindbom G Djurgardens (Swe) 6-1/175 23-Jul-00 Sweden
92 Anderson MacDonald LW Moncton (QMJHL) 6-2/205 16-May-00 Canada
93 Jakub Skarek G Dukla Jihlava (Cze) 6-3/200 10-Nov-99 Czech
94 Dmitri Zavgorodny LW Rimouski (QMJHL) 5-8/175 11-Aug-00 Russia
95 Curtis Douglas C Windsor (OHL) 6-8/235 6-Mar-00 Canada
96 Danila Galenyuk D SKA-1946 St. Petersburg (Rus) 6-1/200 10-Feb-00 Russia
97 Kristian Reichel C Red Deer (WHL) 6-1/170 11-Jun-98 Czech
98 Justus Annunen G Karpat Oulu (Fin) 6-4/215 11-Mar-00 Finland
99 Joey Keane D Barrie (OHL) 6-0/185 2-Jul-99 USA
100 Nando Eggenberger LW Davos (Sui) 6-2/195 7-Oct-99 Switzerland
101 Oliver Okuliar LW Dukla Trencin (Svk) 6-1/190 24-May-00 Slovakia
102 Alec Regula D London (OHL) 6-3/200 6-Aug-00 USA
103 Ivan Prosvetov G Youngstown (USHL) 6-4/175 5-Mar-99 Russia
104 Scott Perunovich D Minn-Duluth (NCHC) 5-9/170 18-Aug-98 USA
105 Kristian Tanus C Tappara (Fin) 5-6/160 17-Aug-00 Finland
106 Matej Pekar C Muskegon (USHL) 6-0/170 10-Feb-00 Czech
107 Riley Damiani C Kitchener (OHL) 5-9/165 20-Mar-00 Canada
108 Jack St. Ivany D Sioux Falls (USHL) 6-2/200 22-Jul-99 USA
109 Filip Lindberg G TuTo (Fin) 6-0/180 31-Jan-99 Finland
110 Jachym Kondelik C Muskegon (USHL) 6-6/225 21-Dec-99 Czech
111 Arttu Nevasaari RW Karpat Oulu (Fin) 5-11/180 23-Jan-00 Finland
112 Ville Petman C Lukko Rauma (Fin) 5-10/180 18-Jan-00 Finland
113 Einar Emanuelsson RW Lulea (Swe) 5-10/185 3-Apr-97 Sweden
114 Ben Copeland C Waterloo (USHL) 5-10/180 27-Apr-99 USA
115 Kevin Mandolese G Cape Breton (QMJHL) 6-4/180 22-Aug-00 Canada
116 Logan Hutsko RW Boston College (HE) 5-10/175 11-Feb-99 USA
117 Carter Robertson D Ottawa (OHL) 6-2/180 15-Jan-00 Canada
118 Alex Steeves C Dubuque (USHL) 5-11/185 10-Dec-99 USA
119 Matt Thiessen G Steinbach (MJHL) 6-2/190 9-Jun-00 Canada
120 Patrick Khodorenko C Michigan State (B1G) 6-0/205 13-Oct-98 USA
121 Albin Eriksson RW Skelleftea (Swe) 6-4/205 20-Jul-00 Sweden
122 Nathan Dunkley C London (OHL) 5-11/195 3-May-00 Canada
123 Jordan Harris D Kimball Union (USHS-NH) 5-11/180 7-Jul-00 USA
124 Kyle Topping C Kelowna (WHL) 5-11/185 18-Nov-99 Canada
125 Linus Karlsson C Karlskrona (Swe) 6-1/180 16-Nov-99 Sweden
126 Jacob Ingham G Mississauga (OHL) 6-4/190 10-Jun-00 Canada
127 Luka Burzan C Brandon (WHL) 6-0/180 7-Jan-00 Canada
128 Egor Zamula D Calgary (WHL) 6-2/165 30-Mar-00 Russia
129 Xavier Bouchard D Baie-Comeau (QMJHL) 6-3/190 28-Feb-00 Canada
130 Billy Moskal C London (OHL) 6-0/185 22-Mar-00 Canada
131 Danila Zhuravlyov D Irbis Kazan (Rus) 6-0/165 8-Apr-00 Russia
132 Adam Samuelsson D NTDP (USA) 6-6/240 21-Jun-00 USA
133 Jack Jensen C Eden Prairie (USHS-MN) 6-0/195 31-Aug-00 USA
134 Mitchell Hoelscher C Ottawa (OHL) 5-11/160 27-Jan-00 Canada
135 Samuel Bucek LW Chicago (USHL) 6-1/215 19-Dec-98 Slovakia
136 Caleb Everett D Saginaw (OHL) 6-1/185 20-Jan-00 USA
137 Lenni Killinen RW Blues (Fin) 6-2/180 15-Jun-00 Finland
138 Kody Clark RW Ottawa (OHL) 6-1/180 13-Oct-99 Canada
139 Wyatte Wylie D Everett (WHL) 6-0/190 2-Nov-99 USA
140 Samuel Fagemo RW Frolunda (Swe) 5-11/195 14-Mar-00 Sweden
141 Declan Chisholm D Peterborough (OHL) 6-1/185 12-Jan-00 Canada
142 Linus Nyman RW Kingston (OHL) 5-9/160 11-Jul-99 Finland
143 Krystof Hrabik C Bili Tygri Liberec (Cze) 6-4/210 24-Sep-99 Czech
144 Jack Gorniak LW West Salem High (USHS-WI) 5-10/180 15-Sep-99 USA
145 Toni Utunen D LeKi (Fin 2) 5-11/175 27-Apr-00 Finland
146 Santeri Salmela D KOOKOO (Fin) 6-1/195 10-Jun-00 Finland
147 Seth Barton D Trail (BCHL) 6-2/175 18-Aug-99 Canada
148 Vladislav Kotkov LW Chicoutimi (QMJHL) 6-4/205 8-Jan-00 Russia
149 Peetro Seppala D KOOKOO (Fin) 6-1/180 17-Aug-00 Finland
150 Jack Perbix RW Elk River (USHS-MN) 6-1/175 13-Sep-00 USA
151 Spencer Stastney D NTDP (USA) 5-10/180 4-Jan-00 USA
152 Jakob Ragnarsson D Almtuna (Swe) 6-0/175 23-Sep-99 Sweden
153 Connor Dewar LW Everett (WHL) 5-10/175 26-Jun-99 Canada
154 Pontus Holmberg LW Vasteras (Swe) 5-10/175 9-May-99 Sweden
155 Anton Malyshev D Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (Rus) 6-0/185 27-Feb-00 Russia
156 Luke Henman C Blainville-Boisbriand (QMJHL) 5-11/150 29-Apr-00 Canada
157 Chase Wouters C Saskatoon (WHL) 5-11/180 8-Feb-00 Canada
158 Curtis Hall C Youngstown (USHL) 6-2/195 26-Apr-00 USA
159 Nikolai Kovalenko RW Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (Rus) 5-10/175 17-Oct-99 Russia
160 David Lilja C Karlskoga (Swe) 5-11/175 23-Jan-00 Sweden
161 Severi Lahtinen RW Peliitat (Fin 2) 6-2/175 13-Dec-98 Finland
162 Marcus Westfalt C Brynas (Swe) 6-3/205 12-Mar-00 Sweden
163 Christian Propp G North Bay (OHL) 6-2/195 27-Mar-99 Canada
164 Ryan Chyzowski LW Medicine Hat (WHL) 6-0/190 14-May-00 Canada
165 Lukas Wernblom C MoDo (Swe) 5-9/170 22-Jul-00 Sweden
166 Jerry Turkulainen LW JyP Jyvaskyla (Fin) 5-7/150 22-Sep-98 Finland
167 Kevin Hancock LW Owen Sound (OHL) 5-11/185 2-Mar-98 Canada
168 Eric Florchuk C Saskatoon (WHL) 6-1/175 10-Jan-00 Canada
169 Mikhail Bitsadze C Dynamo Moscow (Rus) 5-11/170 18-Nov-99 Russia
170 Riley Stotts C Calgary (WHL) 5-11/170 5-Jan-00 Canada
171 Aleksi Halme LW TuTo (Fin) 6-0/195 13-Nov-99 Finland
172 Mac Hollowell D Sault Ste Marie (OHL) 5-9/170 26-Sep-98 Canada
173 Justin Almeida C Moose Jaw (WHL) 5-9/160 6-Feb-99 Canada
174 Matthew Struthers C North Bay (OHL) 6-2/210 26-Dec-99 Canada
175 Zachary Bouthillier G Chicoutimi (QMJHL) 6-2/185 8-Nov-99 Canada
176 Carl Jakobsson LW Farjestads (Swe) 6-1/170 13-Jul-00 Sweden
177 Liam Kirk LW Sheffield (EIHL) 6-2/160 3-Jan-00 England
178 Guillaume Maillard C Geneve-Servette (Sui) 6-0/200 11-Oct-98 Switzerland
179 Justin Ducharme LW Acadie-Bathurst (QMJHL) 5-10/180 22-Feb-00 Canada
180 Mitchell Lewandowski RW Michigan State (B1G) 5-9/185 17-Apr-98 USA
181 Anthony Del Gaizo C Muskegon (USHL) 5-11/195 31-Jan-98 USA
182 Jacob Pivonka C NTDP (USA) 5-11/200 28-Feb-00 USA
183 Jere Innala LW HPK (Fin) 5-9/175 17-Mar-98 Finland
184 Paul Cotter C Lincoln (USHL) 6-0/190 16-Nov-99 USA
185 Jack DeBoer C NTDP (USA) 6-2/190 17-Aug-00 USA
186 Max Paddock G Regina (WHL) 6-1/150 15-Jun-00 Canada
187 Sam Bitten C Ottawa (OHL) 6-1/195 21-Mar-00 Canada
188 Dennis Busby D Flint (OHL) 5-10/190 6-Jan-00 Canada
189 Juuso Ketola D Assat Pori (Fin) 5-11/210 18-Mar-00 Finland
190 Cole Krygier D Lincoln (USHL) 6-3/195 5-May-00 USA
191 Tyler Tucker D Barrie (OHL) 6-1/205 1-Mar-00 Canada
192 Jared Moe G Waterloo (USHL) 6-3/205 22-Jul-99 USA
193 Henrik Malmstrom D Sodertalje (Swe) 6-6/190 2-Oct-98 Sweden
194 Michael Callahan D Youngstown (USHL) 6-2/195 23-Sep-99 USA
195 Daniel Kurovsky RW Vitkovice (Cze) 6-4/215 4-Mar-98 Czech
196 Vladislav Yeryomenko D Calgary (WHL) 6-0/185 23-Apr-99 Belarus
197 Egor Sokolov LW Cape Breton (QMJHL) 6-4/225 7-Jun-00 Russia
198 Mathias Emilio Pettersen C Muskegon (USHL) 5-9/170 3-Apr-00 Norway
199 Michael Vorlicky D Edina (USHS-MN) 6-1/165 17-Jul-00 USA
200 Patrik Siikanen C Blues (Fin) 6-1/200 16-Apr-00 Finland
201 Zach Solow RW Northeastern (HE) 5-9/185 6-Nov-98 USA
202 Connor Corcoran D Windsor (OHL) 6-1/185 7-Aug-00 Canada
203 Nolan McElhaney D Cushing Academy (USHS-MA) 6-3/175 22-Apr-99 USA
204 Jack Randl LW Omaha (USHL) 5-10/180 7-May-00 USA
205 Brendan Budy LW Langley (BCHL) 5-10/180 6-Jun-00 Canada
206 Dawson Barteaux D Red Deer (WHL) 6-0/180 12-Jan-00 Canada
207 Jesper Sellgren D MoDo (Swe) 5-11/170 11-Jun-98 Sweden
208 Riley Hughes RW St. Sebastian's (USHS-MA) 6-1/175 27-Jun-00 USA
209 Libor Zabransky D Kelowna (WHL) 6-1/190 26-May-00 Czech
210 Riley McCourt D Flint (OHL) 5-11/170 26-Jun-00 Canada
211 Otto Kivenmaki C Assat Pori (Fin) 5-8/140 24-Mar-00 Finland
212 Erik Middendorf LW NTDP (USA) 6-0/190 11-Jul-00 USA
213 Alexey Polodyan LW SKA-1946 St. Petersburg (Rus) 5-11/165 30-Jul-98 Russia
214 Michael Kesselring D New Hampton School (USHS-NH) 6-4/185 13-Jan-00 USA
215 Dmitri Semykin D Kapitan Stupino (Rus) 6-3/200 24-Feb-00 Russia
216 Filip Kral D Spokane (WHL) 6-1/170 20-Oct-99 Czech
217 Glenn Gustafsson C Orebro (Swe) 5-10/200 4-Sep-98 Sweden

Brandon Biro RW Penn State (B1G) 5-11/165 11-Mar-98 Canada
Jakob Brahaney D Kingston (OHL) 6-1/185 26-Mar-99 Canada
Justin Brazeau RW North Bay (OHL) 6-5/220 2-Feb-98 Canada
Martin Bucko D Pardubice (Cze) 6-0/175 13-May-00 Slovakia
Mitchell Chaffee RW Massachusetts (HE) 6-0/200 26-Jan-98 USA
Angus Crookshank LW Langley (BCHL) 5-10/180 2-Oct-99 Canada
Ethan de Jong RW Prince George (BCHL) 5-10/170 12-Jul-99 Canada
Grigori Dronov D Magnitogorsk (Rus) 6-2/205 10-Jan-98 Russia
Ivan Drozdov RW Yunost Minsk (Blr) 6-0/175 15-Nov-99 Belarus
Josh Dunne C Green Bay (USHL) 6-3/185 8-Dec-98 USA
Roman Durny G Des Moines (USHL) 6-2/200 28-May-98 Slovakia
Daniel Dvorak G Hradec Kralove (Cze) 6-3/160 9-Jan-00 Czech
Danila Dyadenkin LW Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (Rus) 6-0/175 16-Mar-00 Russia
Pontus Englund D Timra (Swe) 6-3/205 15-Jul-00 Sweden
William Ennis D Oshawa (OHL) 6-2/205 31-May-00 Canada
Samuel Ersson G Brynas (Swe) 6-2/180 20-Oct-99 Sweden
Trey Fix-Wolansky RW Edmonton (WHL) 5-8/185 26-May-99 Canada
Damien Giroux C Saginaw (OHL) 5-9/180 3-Mar-00 Canada
Danil Gizatullin LW Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (Rus) 5-11/180 2-Feb-00 Russia
Maxim Golod LW Erie (OHL) 5-11/165 18-Aug-00 Canada
Alex Green D Cornell (ECAC) 6-2/180 18-Jun-98 USA
Nicolas Guay C Drummondville (QMJHL) 6-0/185 18-Jun-99 Canada
Gavin Hain C NTDP (USA) 5-11/195 3-Apr-00 USA
Reece Harsch D Seattle (WHL) 6-3/195 7-Jan-99 Canada
Samuel Harvey G Rouyn Noranda (QMJHL) 6-0/185 4-Feb-98 Canada
Filip Hasa D Frolunda (Swe) 5-9/150 11-May-00 Sweden
Tom Hedberg D HV 71 (Swe) 5-11/165 10-Aug-99 Sweden
David Hrenak G St. Cloud State (NCHC) 6-2/190 5-May-98 Slovakia
Michal Ivan D Acadie-Bathurst (QMJHL) 6-1/185 18-Nov-99 Slovakia
Georgi Ivanov C Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (Rus) 6-0/190 25-Sep-98 Russia
Ken Jager C Davos (Sui) 6-0/145 30-May-98 Switzerland
Isaac Johnson LW Tri-City (WHL) 6-2/185 24-Jan-99 USA
Jett Jungels C Edina (USHS-MN) 5-9/165 14-Jul-00 Sweden
Matthew Kellenberger D Oakville (OJHL) 6-0/185 11-Jan-99 Canada
Brett Kemp C Edmonton (WHL) 6-0/165 23-Mar-00 Canada
Semyon Kizimov RW Lada Togliatti (Rus) 6-0/175 19-Jan-00 Russia
Jordan Kooy G London (OHL) 6-2/185 30-Apr-00 Canada
Marek Korencik D Lulea (Swe) 6-2/195 19-Jul-99 Slovakia
Demetrios Koumontzis LW Edina (USHS-MN) 5-10/185 24-Mar-00 USA
Filip Krivosik C LeKi (Fin) 6-4/210 27-Mar-99 Slovakia
Michal Kvasnica RW Frydek-Mistek (Cze) 6-1/190 7-Apr-00 Czech
Jackson Leppard LW Prince George (WHL) 6-1/200 18-Jan-00 Canada
David Levin C Sudbury (OHL) 5-10/180 16-Sep-99 Canada
Graham Lillibridge D Chicago (USHL) 5-9/160 29-Jan-99 USA
Adam Liska C Kitchener (OHL) 5-10/185 14-Oct-99 Slovakia
John Ludvig D Portland (WHL) 6-0/185 2-Aug-00 Canada
Zach Magwood C Barrie (OHL) 5-10/190 22-Apr-98 Canada
James Malm C Vancouver (WHL) 5-9/180 25-Jun-99 Canada
Igor Martynov LW Victoria (WHL) 6-0/180 19-Jan-99 Belarus
Dustyn McFaul D Pickering (OJHL) 6-2/185 4-Aug-00 Canada
Albert Michnac LW Mississauga (OHL) 6-0/180 18-Oct-98 Czech
Amir Miftakhov G Irbis Kazan (Rus) 6-0/160 26-Apr-00 Russia
Kalle Miketinac C Oskarshamn (Swe 2) 5-11/190 2-Apr-99 Sweden
Artyom Minulin D Swift Current (WHL) 6-2/200 1-Oct-98 Russia
Travis Mitchell D Omaha (USHL) 6-2/195 25-Nov-99 USA
Nolan Moyle RW Green Bay (USHL) 6-1/185 13-Apr-99 USA
Jaxon Nelson C Sioux Falls (USHL) 6-4/210 30-Mar-00 USA
Emil Oksanen LW Regina (WHL) 6-1/190 25-Sep-98 Finland
Radovan Pavlik RW Hradec Kralove (Cze) 5-9/175 18-Feb-98 Czech
Ryan Peckford LW Moose Jaw (WHL) 6-0/190 4-Mar-99 Canada
Karel Plasek RW Kometa Brno (Cze) 5-10/155 28-Jul-00 Czech
Dylan Plouffe D Vancouver (WHL) 6-0/195 27-Apr-99 Canada
Vincent Purpura G Omaha (USHL) 6-3/195 29-Oct-98 USA
Cole Reinhardt LW Brandon (WHL) 6-0/205 1-Feb-00 Canada
Connor Roberts C Flint (OHL) 6-4/210 22-Feb-00 Canada
Nikita Rtishchev RW Krasnaya Armiya CSKA (Rus) 6-1/195 23-May-00 Russia
Brandon Saigeon C Hamilton (OHL) 6-1/195 14-Jun-98 Canada
Akira Schmid G Langnau (Sui) 6-4/165 12-May-00 Switzerland
Jacob Schmidt-Svejstrup RW Fargo (USHL) 6-1/200 14-Jan-98 Denmark
Zdenek Sedlak RW Karpat Oulu (Fin) 6-2/205 23-Mar-00 Czech
Bulat Shafigullin LW Reaktor Nizhnekamsk (Rus) 6-1/165 29-Dec-99 Russia
Yegor Sharangovich C Dinamo Minsk (Rus) 6-2/195 6-Jun-98 Belarus
Pavel Shen C Yugra Khanty-Mansiysk (Rus) 6-1/185 14-Aug-99 Russia
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Jacob Svensson C Almtuna (Swe) 6-1/180 2-Oct-98 Sweden
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Marek Valach LW Cedar Rapids (USHL) 5-11/190 18-Jul-98 Slovakia
Marek Zachar C Sherbrooke (QMJHL) 5-9/165 11-Jun-98 Czech
Alexander Zhabreyev C Dynamo St. Petersburg (Rus) 5-7/155 24-Mar-00 Russia
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Post #864 by Not » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:28 pm

I listened to the Bobcast and Hughes was a high risk/high reward pick from the 10 scouts he consults with (7 are head scouts). I don’t think you choose a high risk/high reward with #3.

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Post #865 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:30 pm

If they decide to go D, I could see them going Boqvist or Dobson
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Post #866 by Dog » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:32 pm

700 more names and we’re getting a strong maybe from Mac!

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Post #867 by Retardé S » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:32 pm

I can definitely see them trading down and going for Dobson
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Post #868 by Dog » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:34 pm

You guys seem to be able to see them picking like 5-6 players.

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Post #869 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:35 pm

Dobson had an amazing season with the Titan, and was one of the top defensemen in the league. He was always known as a smart, strong defender, but his offensive game really exploded this year in his second season in the league. Dobson has an excellent hockey IQ. He is a very smart player who thinks the game really well both with and without the puck.

He’s an above-average skater; he’ll join the rush when he sees an opportunity, but always does so in a smart way and will rarely get caught. His puck movement is excellent; he has a good first pass out of his zone and makes quick decisions with the puck. He really thinks the game well, and sees things happen in front of him faster than most players at this level. His on-ice vision is excellent in the offensive zone, and it’s a great asset on the power play. He doesn’t have an elite shot from the point, but made some strides there this year, as he was more effective in terms of scoring during the 2nd half of the season (scoring 12 of his 16 goals after the Christmas break). Defensively, he’s tough to beat one-on-one; he has above-average footwork and lateral agility. He does some good work with his quick stick to pokecheck pucks away
from opponents, and keeps a good gap. He’s not yet physically mature yet; he could add another 15-20 pounds to his frame. His physical game is good enough for now, but with the added strength, he could be more assertive along the boards and in front of the net. His intensity and physical game are two parts of his game that will need to improve a bit, but with time and better competition, this shouldn’t be a problem.

Overall, Dobson is a complete defenseman who can help a team many different ways. He’s a guy who projects to play onboth special teams’ units.and is a potential number one defensman in the NHlL.

“He’s high-end. Took me until now to get to see him and he was really good. He’s up with the top D group for sure.” - NHL Scout, October 2017

“He has it all., he’s Poised and skilled,. He’s the reason this team has a chance.every night.” - NHL Scout, November 2017

“He’s the best D behind Dahlin and it isn’t close.” - NHL Scout, December 2017

“Dahlin, Dobson, Boqvist and Hughes are the top 4.defensemen.” - NHL Scout, December 2017

“He’s right behind Zadina. Easily the 4th best player in the draft.” - NHL Scout, January 2018

“Between Dobson and Bouchard, it’s Dobson by a wide margin . Dobson versus Boqvist is tighter.Bouchard is a tier down from those guys.” - NHL Scout, January 2018

“Ottawa is going to have a pretty big need on their back-end. They have Chabot and who else? Where are they picking again?” NHL Scout, May 2018

“He really jumped out at me at the beginning of the season and made me realize how much I underrated his offensive upside last season. There’s not many weaknesses to his game and so much to like. He’s still improving, which is the scary part here." – HP Scout Jérôme Bérubé

“I only saw him play one game this season where he wasn’t fantastic and it was the second to last game before the Christmas break. Only reason I was even there was because I was in Halifax for the WJAC anyway. That weekend before Christmas are bad games to scout in the CHL. - HP Scout, Mark Edwards

“When I compare the way Dobson plays defense to a guy like Bode Wilde, the difference is large. because Dobson plays everything so much tighter and smarter.” - HP Scout, Mark Edwards
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Post #870 by Retardé S » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:35 pm

Dog wrote:You guys seem to be able to see them picking like 5-6 players.

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Post #871 by Not » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:41 pm

I also put some weight on late birthdays. Zedina, Brady and Hughes are 99’s, and in Kots case, nearly a year older.
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Post #872 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:43 pm

Dog wrote:700 more names and we’re getting a strong maybe from Mac!

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I'll have to make up names
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Post #873 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:50 pm

Not wrote:I also put some weight on late birthdays. Zedina, Brady and Hughes are 99’s, and in Kots case, nearly a year older.



that's AD's s(c)hti(c)k
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Post #874 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:59 pm

Jonny Tychonick had an excellent season for the Vees, producing 47 points in 48 games, including 38 assists. In the playoffs he had 17 points in 11 games, including 14 assists. Internationally, he had 2 points at the WJAC-19 and 2 assists in 5 games at the U18’s.

Tychonick is a dynamic offensive defenseman who plays with some bite. What separates him in this draft from some of the other smaller defenseman, is that he’s willing to play a physical brand of hockey. He’s a tenacious and active player in his own-end at times, generating hits and showing a willingness to pin his opponents along the boards while competing for the puck. Although overmatched physically on occasion and not always reading the play properly in his own-end, he makes up for his deficiencies with exceptional passing ability and impressive four-way mobility. His first-pass is one of the better passes in this class, it takes him very little time to identify his passing lane and read how much time he has to move the puck under pressure before losing his angle. If his passing options have been taken from him, he’s got impressive east-west movement, and a momentum shifting stride that allows him to generate a good amount of power.

He’s a kid who plays with a high-level of bravado, baiting his opponents at times to try and stop him from going end-to end. This type of confidence when combined with his impressive tools have allowed us to see some incredible individual efforts from him this past season. None more so, than when we watched him weave through an entire team, before using his soft-hands to deke out the netminder for one of the best goals we watched this season. Unfortunately, his confidence can come with a price as well, as he does have a tendency to over-handle the puck in the neutral zone and has been prone to unforced turnovers in some of the games we viewed him in.

Despite his confidence being a double-edged sword at times, it does still allow him to make some of the cleaner transitional zone entries and exits out of the group on the backend when he’s on top of his game. Once he’s established himself at the line, he’s shown advanced feinting mechanics, using his lateral mobility and shiftiness to readjust his lanes, before threading difficult passes with an impressive level of precision. Although an adept passer, he also has an effective shot from the point. This is due to his accuracy and placement more so than the velocity his shot generates. The majority of his wrist-shots and slapshots are aimed low, around the ankle area to increase the rate of deflections and rebounds.

One of the areas he needs to improve with his shot is when to time it through screens, he does have a tendency to shoot without traffic at times, which generates a harmless attempt that is easily handled by netminders. That being said, we have also seen him use it to create fake-shot set-ups so that he can further take-advantage of his excellent passing.

The biggest area of improvement for Tychonick in the offensive-zone, is in his pacing. Despite his offensive-gifts and ability to exploit defensive-units, he doesn’t control the tempo of a game at the rate he theoretically should considering his skills. This is due to rushing his options at times or trying to do too much, which stems back to our earlier point about his mentality when he’s on the ice.

Tychonick can leave you in awe with his transitional zone entries that are created through his quick hands and he can play a gritty game if he has to. So, despite his size, average defensive reads, and inability to dictate the rhythm of a game at a consistent rate, there’s still a lot of upside that can be untapped with the right development.
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Post #875 by Slick Nick » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:54 pm

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“Skilled 2nd line center and possibly even a number one center. He’s a smart player.” - NHL Scout, May 2018


You're not supposed to be drafting 2nd liners with a turd overall. From the videos I've watched, I just can't see him become a dominating center, he simply doesn't have the skill set. One thing that I like about him is the fact that he's one of the younger guys in the draft..
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Post #876 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:05 pm

Slick Nick wrote:
Twitter bArt wrote:
“Skilled 2nd line center and possibly even a number one center. He’s a smart player.” - NHL Scout, May 2018


You're not supposed to be drafting 2nd liners with a turd overall. From the videos I've watched, I just can't see him become a dominating center, he simply doesn't have the skill set. One thing that I like about him is the fact that he's one of the younger guys in the draft..



every player after 1 and 2 has flaws
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Post #877 by Macbeth » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:06 pm

TittiesNBeer wrote:Karlsson and marchassault both take an equal amount of faceoffs. Marchessault is the centre on the line.

Same way that auston matthews and william nylander shift faceoffs depending which side of the ice its on. Matthews plays centre and nylander on the wing.

As for the past, the game gets faster and more skilled every year. Timmins comments are the acknowledgement of that. But those who are dense are the ones who deny the changes. Just like the Republicans who deny climate change.

Marchessault did not seem to take a single FO in the playoves.
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Post #878 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:11 pm

Slick Nick wrote:
Twitter bArt wrote:
“Skilled 2nd line center and possibly even a number one center. He’s a smart player.” - NHL Scout, May 2018


You're not supposed to be drafting 2nd liners with a turd overall. From the videos I've watched, I just can't see him become a dominating center, he simply doesn't have the skill set. One thing that I like about him is the fact that he's one of the younger guys in the draft..



also, maybe you have to find the videos the others have showing his skill set
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It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



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Post #879 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:15 pm

concerns about Filip Forsberg's lack of elite skills saw him drop in the rankings and draft

concerns about Aho saw him drop in the draft


these prospects all have blemishes, there are no Slick Nicks in the draft
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



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Post #880 by Retardé S » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:22 pm

Twitter bArt wrote:
Slick Nick wrote:
Twitter bArt wrote:
“Skilled 2nd line center and possibly even a number one center. He’s a smart player.” - NHL Scout, May 2018


You're not supposed to be drafting 2nd liners with a turd overall. From the videos I've watched, I just can't see him become a dominating center, he simply doesn't have the skill set. One thing that I like about him is the fact that he's one of the younger guys in the draft..



every player after 1 and 2 has flaws

That's not a flaw though, it's a question of upside. Kokonoémie would be disappointing at #3. Rather pick Zadina or Hughes who both have specific elite skills in their make up.
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Post #881 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:35 pm

Not choosing sides, but just for discussion purposes

he has high end playmaking skills
his skating is not poor

we can keep waiting for the perfect Center, but someday never comes

I'd be okay with any of the names we've discussed, after #1 and #2 , I don't think you are going to see bat flipping home runs, but you should get a strong player to build with

I am actually really intrigued to see what they do with the 4 2nd rounders
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It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



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Post #882 by AD » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:47 pm

Jasper Kostitsyn it is.

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Post #883 by TittiesNBeer » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:52 pm

Macbeth wrote:
TittiesNBeer wrote:Karlsson and marchassault both take an equal amount of faceoffs. Marchessault is the centre on the line.

Same way that auston matthews and william nylander shift faceoffs depending which side of the ice its on. Matthews plays centre and nylander on the wing.

As for the past, the game gets faster and more skilled every year. Timmins comments are the acknowledgement of that. But those who are dense are the ones who deny the changes. Just like the Republicans who deny climate change.

Marchessault did not seem to take a single FO in the playoves.


He took 109 FOs in the playoves

He took 600+ in the regular season, Karlsson 800+
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Post #884 by TittiesNBeer » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:54 pm

Twitter bArt wrote:Not choosing sides, but just for discussion purposes

he has high end playmaking skills
his skating is not poor

we can keep waiting for the perfect Center, but someday never comes

I'd be okay with any of the names we've discussed, after #1 and #2 , I don't think you are going to see bat flipping home runs, but you should get a strong player to build with

I am actually really intrigued to see what they do with the 4 2nd rounders


Its not poor, but is average at best. I don't want average at 3rd overall in a league where speed is becoming more and more important.

Hughes skating is elite. Might be the best skater in the whole class.
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Post #885 by Not » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:56 pm

It’s not speed skating...Hughes is one of the smallest player in the draft
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Post #886 by Mufasa » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:57 pm

TittiesNBeer wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
TittiesNBeer wrote:Karlsson and marchassault both take an equal amount of faceoffs. Marchessault is the centre on the line.

Same way that auston matthews and william nylander shift faceoffs depending which side of the ice its on. Matthews plays centre and nylander on the wing.

As for the past, the game gets faster and more skilled every year. Timmins comments are the acknowledgement of that. But those who are dense are the ones who deny the changes. Just like the Republicans who deny climate change.

Marchessault did not seem to take a single FO in the playoves.


He took 109 FOs in the playoves

He took 600+ in the regular season, Karlsson 800+


How many did Karlsson take in the playoffs? (always wary of Baker manipulating numbers).
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Post #887 by TittiesNBeer » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:57 pm

Drafting by size brought us the likes of Jarred Tinordi and MIke McCarron
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Post #888 by TittiesNBeer » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:58 pm

Mufasa wrote:
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Macbeth wrote:Marchessault did not seem to take a single FO in the playoves.


He took 109 FOs in the playoves

He took 600+ in the regular season, Karlsson 800+


How many did Karlsson take in the playoffs? (always wary of Baker manipulating numbers).


about 300

Marchessault was running at like 35% on faceoffs in the playoffs, they took away some.
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Post #889 by TittiesNBeer » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:59 pm

If you watch the defensive and offensive zone work, its still Marchessault in the middle and Smith/Karlsson on the wings.
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Post #890 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:02 pm

TittiesNBeer wrote:Drafting by size brought us the likes of Jarred Tinordi and MIke McCarron



are you saying Kotkaniemi is in the same class skating wise?
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...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



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Post #891 by TittiesNBeer » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:04 pm

Twitter bArt wrote:
TittiesNBeer wrote:Drafting by size brought us the likes of Jarred Tinordi and MIke McCarron



are you saying Kotkaniemi is in the same class skating wise?


no, but we arent talking about a pick in the 20s either, like both of those were.

I am saying that out of the top 10 projected prospects, Kotkaniemi is the 2nd worst skater. He only beats tkachuk.
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Post #892 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:10 pm

TittiesNBeer wrote:
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TittiesNBeer wrote:Drafting by size brought us the likes of Jarred Tinordi and MIke McCarron



are you saying Kotkaniemi is in the same class skating wise?


no, but we arent talking about a pick in the 20s either, like both of those were.

I am saying that out of the top 10 projected prospects, Kotkaniemi is the 2nd worst skater. He only beats tkachuk.



Lots of great skaters that can't put the game together.

and 2nd worst skater in top 10 does not a bust make
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It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



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It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



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Post #895 by Not » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:33 pm

Twitter bArt wrote:
TittiesNBeer wrote:Drafting by size brought us the likes of Jarred Tinordi and MIke McCarron



are you saying Kotkaniemi is in the same class skating wise?


Like he knows the difference....

Kots dominated U18’s in April skills and production. Those two stiffs never dominated jack shit at the international level. Disingenous as usual.
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Post #896 by Not » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:37 pm

Just as drafting for size alone is wrong - drafting solely on skating is wrong. Hughes is small, not physical and defensively game not developed. He might turn out to be a rally good player, but you don’t take players with risk at #3. If Kots is not the guy, and I haven’t seen enough to be convinced he’s a sure thing, then Brady or Zedina or Dobson are better suited for that pick.
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Post #897 by Slick Nick » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:45 pm

Zadina will be just fine fellas.. stop believing the hockey nerds with their combine drama, he's an elite sniper and he'll have a great NHL career.
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Post #898 by Retardé S » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:00 am

I will try to like Zin3din3 again, this current state of thinking is ruining my emotional stability.
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Post #899 by Slick Nick » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:30 am



He's a beast.. head and shoulders above Koko.
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Post #900 by Twitter bArt » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:42 am

Tkatchuk is the only real beast
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



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...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



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